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Forums > Study > KCEL a profit-making school

I've studied at KCEL and had no particular complaints, altho I studied at Keats later and thought it was a little more conscientious about teaching etc. Since I live here I had no need to deal with school-provided housing etc. KCEL was not dirty when I studied there (last time about 2010).

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Student Visa Crackdown

@mPrin: I don't know about mailing your passport to Forever Bright (Ever Bright?), but there have been other companies that have advertsied they could get you a renewal of your (present) M visa if you send them your passport 3 weeks or so before your present M visa expires, and I have a friend who did this and it worked. However, if your student visa is expiring I don't think this will help you.

Anyway, waiting in Hong Kong while the visa is renewed is the standard method - in former years it didn't necessitate sending the passport to one's home country, but only to Macao.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Student Visa Crackdown

Try for an M visa through Forever Bright, a company in East Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon, Hong Kong, who are very good at arranging visas and know what they are doing - have been doing this for about 20 years. If they have to send your passport to your home country to get it, in which case it will take 5 days to a week. If there are other options they will know what they are.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Decent bars

@Haali: no pollution, you'll just be wandering around with your own drinking habits on your own, unless you want to conform reasonably to local drinking customs. You may not want to, but anyway you have the choice.

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True about how Laos has little credit, but it seems you're comparing Lao-Chinese national relations with those of brothers, and I think that kind of metaphor is a bit overused - national ruling classes, who make or break agreements and devise policies etc. in the name of 'nations', have interests, not friends, as has been famously stated by...who was that guy? Sometimes these interests coincide, at least for a while, but there is usually a dominant partner/class group.

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A little confused, not sure how to think about this - seems to me that both Chinese and Lao interests will benefit from the RR - so why should Laos have to pay for ALL of it?

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Sounds okay so far, near as one can tell - but an open question: who benefits most, in terms of money and/or power (or, or that matter, anything else), from the creation of such tourist spaces and cultures, and where do they live? Is it all win-win? And how might it be calculated?

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Went there once and found it interesting just to wander around the surrounding area on my own - plenty of interesting limestone outside the designated area, & people you meet are neither tourists nor people trying to sell you tourist experiences. And of course it's free.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.