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Forums > Study > Trump VS. The Resistance

59.7% of US eligible voting public voted in 2016. Trump lost popular vote. US is 31st out of 35 'developed countries' in voter participation.

Trump is a global problem, in my view, as is, frequently at least, any US government. Nobody gets to vote for any nation-state leader except that state's citizens, as far as I know - which seems to make sense as a general rule - but then you must consider that the US government, unlike that of, say, Zimbabwe, influences the lives of people all over the planet, either directly or through the global economic institutions that it defends. Of course you could say that non-US citizens have no business voting in US elections, but in response the US government might be asked to stop screwing with them, which no US politician or US-international businessman would be willing to do. And while I know of no international poll, so far only the people of Poland are suspected of being, in the main, in favor of Trump as president, I I have no idea whether this is in fact true.
@Dazzer, Peter, anybody: Suggest that we deal here with information, ideas and arguments relevant to the topic at hand that are presented by the individual posters who produce them, for whatever reason they may have. We could also have another thread specifically on poster's personalities or way of posting or insulting behaviour, etc., if that is considered interesting enough.

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...and I think that the reasons for the mindset of

any category or group of people is a subject in itself and needs to be understood. After all, if the problem were only 'this guy Trump', it wouldn't be much of a problem.

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@Stratocaster: Not sure that most Trump supporters are bitter, lonely, paranoid xenophobes desperate for attention. Wish it were that simple. Anyway, that would neither validate nor invalidate anything they say, and there would still be the question of WHY they would be that way.

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@Peter: And what do you mean by the media being infiltrated by leftist hate groups - which ones have infiltrated the media, and how have they managed to do this? They tend not to have a lot of money or money backing.

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@Peter: Do you necessarily equate leftists with hate groups? Seems to me both the terms 'leftist' and 'hate group' are a bit ambiguous. Governments, however, actively promote hatred among the citizens they rule for the enemies they pick, with the interests of the citizens of the enemy rulers, in their millions, generally ignored or covered by statements about how they are going to free them or save them or whatever.

At best, perhaps, this leads to ridicule - note the North Korean Foreign Minister's speeches and Trump's speeches at the UN, which, I would like to think (but unfortunately can't believe), most of us see as examples of the nasty absurdity of it all. Which, of course, does not mean that a large number of people may well die.

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As near as I can remember, they haven't had anything new on their menu in 13 years. Full meal consists of chicken steak, with or without mushroom sauce.
Sandwiches are okay. Service is generally poor, and they seem to be understaffed.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Great location, nice seating area outside within the temple compound and with plenty of space for gigs, etc., on afternoons. Good steak, good crowds, bbq and buffet both good. .

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.