In my experience, when a new airport opens, they have a few major new routes lined up. However, they usually advertise them WELL before they open as a "coming up in 3 months" in order to secure bookings and hence make money from day 1. Think about it, if they said "today we are flying to Belgium!" on the opening day without prior announcements, how many people would they get on the first few flights? Not many!

Be safe, go from Beijing.

After new airports open they also add routes but this is all up to the airline companies. They decide whether it would be profitable based on the airport rent, the visa situations between the companies, plane positioning logistics, landing fees etc etc.

So basically, if you don't see anyone advertising now for flights in July, I suspect there aren't any. July is a bit close anyway - airlines probably wouldn't commit planes at that stage as it is too close to the airport opening which could be delayed beyond that date if all associated services aren't there (i.e. the road finished, the toilets installed etc).

Ha haa, I aren't embarrassed, you took what I said and blew it out of all proportion. I did the same. For example, I said laowai. We are laowai whether you like it or not. If you don't like the term, that's not my problem. Why you start attacking a person for using an innocent term that is in common usage in our environment is beyond me. Hell, you even used it yourself! I never said he should be treated different from Chinese. You suggested I said it.

You say:
"Foreigners" means people from over 100 countries, with nothing specific about them, or shared between them.

Which is incorrect. There is something shared between us: none of us are Chinese citizens. In my experience, many Chinese view us as one big group, not my fault, but that is reality.

Another example, I said "I hope he is locked up and the key thrown away." I did not say "I demand that he gets a worse punishment than Chinese people because he is lao wai". Who makes sloppy assumptions again? If you don't want to read what I said, or want to make assumptions about me, that also isn't my fault. You then take sentences I have written, take them out of context then using this as evidence, insinuate that I am simple.

I think the problem is that you started personally attacking me for something innocent. I don't know if you were having a bad day or something, but you force me constantly to defend myself against what you perceive as some amazing evil that I wrote. This in turn causes a tone for the thread which makes other people think it is OK to do the same. You are perpetuating flaming.

Think about it. All I posted was a news story about a lao wai tried to rape a girl and said it was bad. I posted it because it was pretty unusual to get that sort of activity on video and its pretty damning and also to highlight (on a foreigner website) the disdain I have for people who believe coming to another culture to abuse women is OK. As a result, you have since accused me of unskilled writing (we aren't exactly writing a newspaper here), sordidly questioned if I am a rapist myself, accused me of being racist and lastly of being unable to read.

Did your wife just leave you or something? Did your dog die? Did you stub your toe? You seem to have singled me out as a person to attack. Why? I don't know.

What I will say is this:

I am sorry if I offended anyone by this forum post. If I did so, it was completely not my intention. I am not racist or a supporter of rape whether it is committed by foreigners or whoever. If you were personally offended by any post of mine, please PM me and I will take you out for a beer and explain myself.

However if you are just angry at the world and are using this as an outlet to vent your anger you should probably realise this won't help. It will probably just make you more angry, bitter and stubborn.

Ha haa, good call :-)

rik dikulous, are you serious?

Seems to me that what you are doing here is part of the problem. "Chinese" are not some new species of exotic animal, they are just people.Locals, tourists from other cities, foreign workers, and so on. That they are not foreigners is no fault of their own, and has nothing to do with standing around looking at car accidents.

What you are proposing with this is really ugly. A suitable analogy might be something like the kind of internalized,reverse racism from the old days of the USA- "uncle tom" is the term, I think.

People crash cars in Beijing and other cities in this world every day or every week, by every kind of person. It doesn't matter really where that person is from at all. Car accidents, not the type of people standing around looking at them, is the problem. Why don't you write about that?

How many times does it need to be said, you are not responsible for other peoples' prejudices, and that includes the possible prejudices of certain foreigners against whoever. If you are not doing bad things to people, no one has a right to come down on you for your skin color, bad driving, nationality, or what have you.

And most foreigners get that, and therefore won't be prejudiced against Chinese because they stand around and look at car accidents caused by foreigners. And if they are, you should put them in their place, not apologize or create obtuse and ridiculous replies to innocent forum posts. Do you intentionally go out and smash up cars so you can rail against Chinese who stand around and watch?
My guess is no. Have their been violent pogroms against Chinese in foreign countries lately for driving badly, with a forum post like this being the spark that could set of a powder keg? Again, no. So this behaviour has nothing to do with you or me.

Ironically, by acting the diplomat, you are adding to the divide that you are writing about . Please stop.

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Awaiting another "holier than thou" forumn post that is soooo long in getting to the point its hard to remember where it started...

"I cannot believe that I complemented Kunming, and this entire sh*tfest is the result! LOL geez"

Don't worry, I used the term "laowai" in a forum post title and you should have seen that sh*tfest from people with little better to do than get offended at virtually nothing. Your username is crazy.laowai, I suspect the same people may just have a go at you because they believe you are calling all laowai's crazy! They may even say something as ridiculous as "your username is as offensive as someone using crazy.nigger or crazy.jew, frankly I am disgusted at your behaviour and believe you have a mental problem".

A lot of the commentators on here need to take a good hard look at themselves...

But Kunming definitely isn't a bad place to be. I like the weather, the altitude (great for training and going back to sea level!), the people are pretty laid back, a nice laowai community (once we are off GoKM!), good food and fairly pretty city particularly around green lake etc.