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Forums > Food & Drink > No Smoking at Salvador's?

Sounds like a pretty horrible idea to me.

Sure, smoking is bad, and there will always be people who don't want to be around it. But let's be realistic - smoking is here to stay in China, and probably for a very long time. Just because a "ban" is put in place doesn't mean it's going to work.

I would say make some days smoking and some days non-smoking. This sounds like the fairest solution for both parties - if not, simply make a smoking and non-smoking section.

To some of the people who were all for an outright ban of smokers, I have one question: how do you get by in China? Do you ever eat in Chinese restaurants?

Unless Salvador's want to lose business by banning smokers from having a drink or a nice meal at their restaurant and send these people to other businesses, an outright ban just doesn't seem very plausible.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Blocks on Wikipedia - a good thing?

The biggest disappointment comes from the fact that the government actually spends money hiring people to enforce this flow of free information.
Granted, wikipedia is at times full of errors and bias, but the great aspect of the site is that it's totally user-driven - which is surprising as the government could actually edit the entries themselves if they were so inclined and spread their own views on events and history.
The firewall only needs a bit of water to put it out - - there are several methods available to circumvent it, but for ease of use and especially in terms of surfing wikipedia I'd recommend anonymouse.org - - there's no need to install confusing proxy server software and search through list after list of proxies.

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Although I don't live in Kunming full-time anymore, I spent quite a few nights there and will really miss the place. I remember hanging out there back in 2003-2004 at the same location before the renovation. It was a great place because after so many years you'd find the same people returning. It was a great place to have that sense of camaraderie.

I'll miss political discussions mixed with a hefty helping of alcohol, and I'll miss the great food. I'll miss the Smegma Riot boys and all the debauchery that goes along with that.

I had a wonderful 28th birthday party upstairs on the second floor and everyone was wonderful, and very understanding about the loud noise and crowding.

I remember watching my Australian friend Justin leap off the second floor through the windows to grab a pack of smokes across the street. I remember hitting my head walking down the stairs on more than one occasion.

I remember lots of late night discussions and being disappointed when they would close down every evening and we'd have to go home.

I'll miss Francesca and I'll miss the Box. Best of luck to all of you in the future.

Tim

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Great article. I remember the old location in the Flower and Bird Market...beautiful building and really quite difficult to find unless you knew exactly where it was. The old location on Wenhua Xiang I was never able to visit, but I remember those old buildings down on the corner and where the new police station is. They had massive marijuana plants growing in there when it was being torn down. Things really have changed!

Kind of makes me nostalgic...I remember getting to Rocco's in the market in no time by bus and now it would take twenty minutes on a good day! Now we're really quite spoiled when it comes to food choices.

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Way to go local government. I know I'd love to send my kids to an unlicensed kindergarten to be stabbed by that teacher.

How long was this school running before someone "found out" it wasn't licensed? She should not only lose her job, but face some prison time for assaulting children. Imagine if the children were Uyghurs! No, wait...

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Went there for the second time with a few friends the other day. Despite being in really tight quarters, the beers were cold and priced well at 8 yuan for a Qingdao, I believe. We went late afternoon and played with the chess board. Very cool.

The only thing I was surprised about was a 36 kuai game fee we had to pay the next evening? We weren't told that when we were offered the chess board... and weren't charged the first time we went. Needless to say, if that's the case we won't be going back.

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I visited this fine establishment with my wife on Valentine's Day and we had a wonderful experience.
The first thing we noticed was the ambiance - it was fantastic. A nice, quiet place playing relaxing music.
The second thing we noticed was that it was CLEAN. Spotless. I felt like I was back home in the states, and it felt good to be in such a well-maintained restaurant.
The staff were extremely friendly and helpful, and we were a bit taken aback, to be honest. We hadn't received such wonderful service since being back home - - - we've been accustomed to rude waitresses and horrible service for a long time!
A bit on the pricy side, but not outrageously so. I'd certainly recommend some of their desserts, and their sandwich selection looked amazing.

The only downside I can see to this place is the location. Too. Damned. Far. Unless you live in the area it's quite a pain to get out there in a reasonable amount of time due to Kunming's less-than-adequate transportation systems. On that note, however, I think it's relative remoteness from the center of town allows it to have the great atmosphere it does.

The first time I've been in a restaurant where I forgot I was in China. I really felt at home.

Give it a shot if you haven't been there already.