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Odd about the Vitamin C - can't understand why fruits in China would have less of it than fruits everywhere else. Anyway, I don't know of any evidence to suggest that ordinary Chinese suffer from Vitamin C deficiency (exceptions might be the very poor), so why should foreigners here?

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US Thanksgiving has no relationship to recognizing the spiritual significance of animals in any of the numerous different Native mythologies in North America or anywhere else. It is a celebration of one, perhaps not the best, variety of Applied Christianity.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > foreigner health in kunming

There's plenty of meat here and plenty of people eat it. I don't think a healthy local diet would cause your problems. Notice what most people eat, do likewise and you shouldn't have any problems. 2-4 months and the adjustment to altitude should be complete in virtually everybody. If you've lost weighty, eat more. I'm not sure about the effects of the air pollution, but these effects don't seem be be serious for most people over the short run - long run, I dunno. There's fruit everywhere, so I don't see why you would suffer a lack of vitamin C unless you don't eat much fruit. Lack of physical activity is pretty obvious - for those who don't otherwise exercise, trying walking a lot to wherever you have to go, &/or get a bicycle.

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Suggest the drinking is related to difficulties of adaptations to, and even of any clear understanding of, rapid socio-cultural change coming from the outside and the denigration of local culture involved, both in objective terms - insecure sense of identities, commoditization, new irrelevance of traditional cultural understandings, etc. Doesn't exactly strike me as mysterious. Religion, including 'new' religion, can play a part in this, either aggressively or defensively, but usually a bit ambiguously, a bit of both.

Plenty of articles about problems caused by hydropower. 'Cleaner', well, maybe, but clearly not good enough in the long run, which is going to require further development of solar, geothermal, wind, etc. It's going to be expensive in terms of money, but that's where the money has to be put in. In the meantime, maybe you've got a point, but the meantime isn't going to last all that long, and it's probably not a good idea to move too many people around, silt up dams, ruin fisheries, risk dam collapses in earthquake-prone areas and all the rest...no, I don't know a lot about this stuff, and burning fossil fuels, including natural gas, is obviously lousy, and nuclear power is really good and clean and safe until it isn't (Japan, not long ago)...okay, I'm no expert.

@ michael: Got your point. Southeast Asian countries are closer, but then Viet Nam, Laos, Myanmar have plenty of hydroelectric power generation potential of their own, although some of them (Laos, for instance, which can and to some extent does provide power to Thailand) probably don't have the cash to develop it. Rather doubt that Viet Nam, for one, would want to become dependent on Chinese power generation.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.