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Forums > Living in Kunming > 10 year visa updates?

If it's money you're worried about, take the train to Guangzhou, change to fast train to Shenzhen, cross border, take commuter train to Kowloon & stay in Chungking Mansions for HK$200/night (with family it will be a bit more, of course). When I'm in Hong Kong I eat for about HK$200/day. Shame to go all that way & not bother to look around the city.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > who thinks we chat is for business use

Good post, vicar, but the thing is that while the internet is providing all sorts of information, it is also screening out other information - like, where you are, who's in front of you, birds singing, etc. In short, it can be misused, and is, and becomes a crutch for those who don't adequately develop skills for human confrontation with matter, or for subtle (i.e., not merely written or spoken) communication with the human beings and other life forms it embodies.
It shouldn't be an either/or choice, but for all too many it is becoming one. I choose not to use it in the middle of dinner parties, conversations with physically-present (i.e., 'real') people, observations of landscapes, interactions with people I don't know but might, or as interference with my relationship to the material world generally. So I keep the internet at home.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > recycling electronics

Best wishes Dan. My impression is that somebody - probably poor - does collect it from next to the bins, and that leads to a useful bowl of rice for somebody. I don't know where it ends up next, tho.

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@Kate: 1st question, my guess is that it's both. Destruction of the environment started centuries ago, here and elsewhere, particularly severe in China thanks to the population and other factors such as the low percentage of flat land in China - destruction evident even in the 19th century to foreign visitors. AS for Beijing, the comparison with 20th-century growth of Los Angeles & the virtual disappearance of the Colorado River in its lower reaches. and US lawns in places like Tucson and Phoenix. Emptying of aquifers in North Africa (Libya, for example).
Yes, governments and human populations need to wise up. There are indeed more efficient ways to manage water, but at any rate there are too many of us, and there will be more. The human species is arrogant, and ideas of Progress, a product of the French Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution, need to be re-examined and toned down, here and everywhere.

I think Kate has a good point and that a lot of water is probably used in wasteful construction. But there really is a drought, has been for recent years, and I think it's true that people everywhere, of whom there are way too many, are careless about wasting water. As for washing cars, there are too many of them too.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.