@redjon
Yeah why not? Dust off

a few of your family recipes. Get some investment money and ask your Chinese wife or family or friend to open it, or get a WOFE [though, then not so cheap anymore]

Anyway it isn't that hard, especially after the business licenses and investment limit has been loosened by the government.

It's a good market in Kunming. as you can see by the amount of newly opened diners around town. An even better indication, the non existing amounts of diners closing, due to lack of business.

@Colinflahive
First, you don't have to justify your business idea or costs calculations.

For all you should care you could charge 1000 RMB for a Coke. It's your successful business and how much profit you make, or how you make it, is as you please.

But you are

comparing 2 different things.
The local food market price vs. bulk and F&B supplier prices.

I am sure that your bulk purchase costs have not changed.
The same goes for staff salaries, unless you hire experienced, already trained staff.

The local staff we hired was had an increase of 500RMB from 10 years ago. Without experience and training in the restaurant business 1500 RMB - 2000RMB [the years ago] to nowadays 2500 RMB to 3000 RMB. All depending on skill and experience. A good staff manager or bar manager, of course can ask for more.

And I am sure that the prices you pay for coffee, booze and food ingredients have not changed a lot in the last ten years, -when buying large quantities.

Smoked salmon is very cheap, from what I remember at METRO. A bit over 100RMB for 700gram of already smoked salmon. 139RMB for a kilo of uncured salmon, if you want to trouble yourself or fry it.

Burmese avocados are also rather cheap when bought in bulk through the right suppliers, same goes with vegetables and even meat [including beef].

There have been increases in prices but in my calculations, it doesn't justify what many owners do. To link their overall prices to single market items, or just raise whenever they feel like, when the news report tofu prices

to increase.

Plus, you cannot just add RMB's on all items. A restaurant lives from crowds of customers and talking about what a bowl of noodles costs has little to do with the business concept of a bar or restaurant

Well of course you can all do that and I don't have a problem with that, at all. It is a business and it shall thrive, but you have to expect complaints from customers and them argue about increases of prices.

And they are right. It cannot be that Kunming is more expansive, or at least on the same price level with Beijing or Shanghai.

that just doesn't add up

The only agreeable point is rent, but many have dodged that bullet by moving to a cost friendlier location.

I understand the frustration of some customers, I only visit two foreign owned joints in Kunming, because all others are overpriced for the quality and portions.

In short having a foreign restaurant is still a very good business with very large profit margins.

You guys seem to have a very good life, otherwise you wouldn't run the café and expand. Right?

@Napoleon
He'll have a financially independent life, but not for very long.

My wife thinks it's impossible to kill 19 people without anyone noticing or callingvthe police. Also she said when the news broke out, there was mention of multiple assailants. But I guess we will never hear what is or was going on. It is pretty big on social media though.

But killing 19people including kids and old folks: this guy should go to a labour camp and being beaten mercilessly, for the rest of his life . Death penalty is too short and too easy.

@dtedheshi
Nobody is smearing your advertisement, so what does that have to do with your stupid advertisements.

So your word is more valuable than ours. I thought the the forum is for everybody. I am not an angel but I am contributing to this thread. Different to you, swinging in here and judging with your entitled buttocks.
So, maybe you are a rich jerk and if what I wrote upsets you, then it makes me happy.

Please if you don't mind, let me know what business you own, so I can actively avoid it.

Btw. I have a 3 year old daughter and I am as scared as any other parent.
You may not know that, being driven everywhere and your army of nannies, taking care of your kids.
So, why not shut your trap for a moment, and think before you write like an a**.

You could also just ignore what people write.

Most kids just get snatched, not due to a lack of supervision, but because there are professional criminals and they have a plan. Hell,there was kid abducted out of its stroller at the big crossroad at Beichen station, while mom was waiting at a red light. A van drives-by, hit's the break, man jumps out intimidating the mom and another guy takes the kid.

Of course these guys do that for a living, so I doubt they would try to take a kid from a 2meter tall bodybuilder, with friends around.

Plus from what my wife told me, they take all the kids clothes, except the underwear and dump their garments somewhere, so the GPS thing may only work for a few minutes after the abduction.