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Forums > Living in Kunming > global economic player helps the poor

Pollution is an economic problem and pollution abatement is a cost of doing business. Unfortunately it is a current cost with long term or future benefits not readily measured.

I worked out a class participation exercise for Chinese business students in response to a demand I use a "game" while teaching Accounting. The exercise required students to collectively make decisions, as owners, for a fictional company. The inputs were company growth, sales, profits, pollution abatement costs, effects of pollution and compliance with regulation.

Over multiple classes, the company grows, sales and profits increase and the pollution byproduct increases, the effects of the pollution affects children and grows worse, the costs of abatement rise and eventually government regulations are added.

After running this exercise in 4th year and post grad classes for a total of six classes, I stopped.

Not once, no matter the horror the produced by the pollution was the cost abatement accepted. Profits and only profits was the driving metric. Even when I said "your own child" was getting sick the collective decision was to avoid abatement cost so profits could continue to increase. This was justified by moving the wife and kid away from the danger.

Today there is enough information on pollution to pretty much exclude ignorance as a cause. Pollution is the result of economic decisions. Full stop.

The article referenced above mentions environmental issues. Better the other guy's kid dies I guess. Troop movement is faster by train and cheaper if you can get the other guy to help pay for the tracks.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > How to ship a cellphone to America

Lion batteries are extremely dangerous. China has pretty strict rules and documentation requirements for export for batteries and whatever they are installed in.

DHL is about the only freight company that will handle Lion batteries but you need to ship in Shenzhen. Special packaging and labeling is also required both in China and the US even for the small 'coin' batteries.

About 2 years ago I had a shipment delayed for 3 months due to the Shanghai factory not having the battery specs correct. Stuff was in Shenzhen waiting for the paperwork. 36 hours after the stuff was released, I got it.

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My guess is that lowering poverty to zero is asymptotical because people are involved. As long as China maintains a $1 per day poverty line, the statistical eradication of poverty will always be impressive. If China adopts The World Bank $1.90 per day there would be a whole lot more people in poverty. Clearly that statistic would not be welcome.

I am not sure what "economic justice" is. Perhaps everyone that has less than someone else is a victim of unfair "economic justice." I suspect, however, that there is no such thing as quantifiable "economic justice" and the term will become an arrow in the social justice warrior's quiver in the struggle for equaity.

A recent tweet on twitter (complete and unedited):

"white women also owe women of color money. this is part of economic justice and justice in general. seeking the economic liberation of all women and the end of capitalism and patriarchy demands white women's accountability. this is possible. not neat or simple, but possible."

34 years ago, when entered China, China was a poor country with most people living under the $1.00 per day poverty line. The 100's of millions of people raised out of poverty in China reflect improvement to above that line. I leave it to you as to how realistic $1 per day is.

Since 2008, $1.25 has been used as the global line. As of October 2015, the global poverty line was updated to $1.90. It seems China is holding the long outdated $1 which is a lower hurdle.

I cringe when I hear of relocation schemes that move poor uneducated unskilled people, living at a centuries old subsistence level, being uprooted and forced into a cash economy. Incomes may rise a few yuan per day so fewer are "counted as poor" while the now "not poor" work at low wages. Real poverty exists in urban areas too.

Yuanyang needs more than one day for sure.

Best time of year is around Spring Festival after the terraces are flooded and before they are planted. You also need a car/van and driver.

Best times of day is dawn and sunset to get light reflecting off the paddies. You only have about 15 minutes with the best light. My experience was mixed. At sunset there was a lot of haze and smoke from farmers burning whatever they had cleaned out of the terraces. The driver showed up late in the morning then insisted on breakfast.

I got my best shots at Dou Yi Cun and Bada at sunrise and the morning.

I was there in 2010 as the lookout platforms were being built. It does get crowded with Chinese tourists who tend to bump and push. I was using two cameras on tripods. People had no problems touching, looking through and moving the camera I wasn't looking through. I was disappointed with my terrace photos.

I spent the daytime hours wandering in markets, streets and alleys. Got many great shot of minzu ladies in their finest 'go to market' dress, kids and some cool old faces. I was pretty much ignored taking people photos. I took over 2500 photos in three days.

@nnoble is right to get off the photo platforms and into the villages and markets. There many minorities, Yi, Hani, Eastern Dai, and others I could not recognize at Sheng Cun.Xiang,

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Samoana is closed and the business is for sale. Contact numbers are posted on the door.

Good Luck Ruth and Troy and all the good folk that worked there.

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Saw tigertiger's review and realized I hadn't stopped at Paul's Shop in a few months. Walked into Paul's with nothing in mind to buy. Walked out after spending 250 yuan.

Bought stuff not usually found in Kunming. I'll be checking Paul's much more often in the future.

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Good for quality, but pricey, hand tools.

Be aware they will push whatever they are selling. Some of the staff have no idea about the technical side of appliances.

I went there to buy a stove. I repeatedly told them I would be using bottled gas. They sold me a stove. When I went to my local gas guy, I learned there are at least three kinds of gas sold. Luckily, B&Q did not deliver as promised. I went back to the store and discovered they had sold me a stove they needed to be hooked up to the gas main. I got my money back.

The sales lady was almost in tears, 没有问题!I don't know if it a safety or design issue, but I would think B&Q would know and care.

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Last week had an 8:45am flight.

Subway starts at 9am. I have no idea where to catch an airport express bus. Eight taxis refused to go to the airport. After almost an hour standing on Beijing Lu took a black taxi, this dude drives slower than my mother, 120 yuan.

Flight back was delayed so I learned the subway stops running at 6:10pm.

Getting a taxi back was easy, more taxis than customers. Taxi was 87 yuan including 1o yuan toll, airport to Beichen area. Yes, he took a longer route than necessary.

Kunming imagines being a gateway for international travelers. New airport but hard to get to and from it.

World Class Airport, NOT!

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Tonight "Peacock", a performance by Yang Liping (杨丽萍), to begin her world tour, 8pm, 100-1680 yuan at Yunna Haigeng Auditorium.

Saw this lady perform at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium, in California, in 1995. Quite a good and interesting show.

I'm going to try to make it.