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Forums > Travel Yunnan > 昆明不文明 but some people here have the warmest hearts

I'd forgotten all about the bathrooms. I seem to remember hearing that it was a part one attemt to

become a 'civilised city'.

I guess I just can't accept any place that would rather leave a family with a two-year-old child on the street than allow a foreigner with all the necessary documentation to stay (apart from an ID card). Like I say, I didn't face such discrimination in the 4 previous days while travelling across China.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > 昆明不文明 but some people here have the warmest hearts

Thanks for the flashback @livinginchina. Totally true. The metro is a be big one for me - most would agree that it's a step in the right direction though some would debate the necessity in a city as small and relatively flat as Kunming. I remember first coming to Kunming in '04/'05 and thinking that I would definitely not like to live there. The area around the train station and the bus stations nearby was particularly nasty. It's a pity that the city 'threw out the baby with the bathwater'. I do miss the street food, outdoor seating, multicultural and generally more laid-back and comfortable lifestyle. I won't miss the endless construction (development apparently)or any other things you listed. I just hoped that the city might have caught up in its acceptance of 'foreigners'. Maybe they can sort out the traffic too. The contrast with more civilised Chinese cities is shocking.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > GoKunming new features and functionality

I hope you're right @livinginchina. I wish I shared your optimism. GoKunming was a lifeline for me when I arrived. Personally, I can't see that it will ever be its old self again and I wonder if there's now a single place to get up-to-date snd trustworthy information. The Facebook groups are okay I guess but I pity anyone that relies on them.

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Gou Rong Wei - interesting info. where did you find that about the instrument landing system? whatever the visibility that day, having to close an entire airport for FOG is pretty disappointing! glad i wasn't stuck in that mess (but some of the pics on shanghaiist.com are quite funny).

Trisha - things seem to just work as they should in Hong Kong airport. i haven't flown to/from taiwan so i can't comment on there shanghai airport was OK when i was last there but that was 5 years ago.

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i took some of my students there earlier this year and they loved it! they spent ages putting coins in an electronic dinosaur that 'lays' eggs (which are actually bouncy balls). it wasn't easy to find or to get to though and is quite well hidden.

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really sorry to see this place go. they provided the best pizza in my opinion and whether you love(d) or hate(d) the Box it has become almost legendary amongst Kunming visitors and expats alike! I for one will blame the greedy landlords alone. when Wenhua Xiang is an empty shell they might realise what they've done.

best of luck Diego and Francesca... I'm sure that whatever you do next will be even better.

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@GTan - if ease of access is the only concern then why not play in Guangzhou or even Hong Kong? at least those places have a higher number of international flight connections...

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hahaha... that's funny. let's forbid anyone of below average height from expressing an opinion too. how about females? old people? as a guest i would like to say that the use of Chinglish on websites such as InKunming is needless and detracts from the overall appeal. but i'm just a 'guest' who uses 'offensive' terms so who cares? right?!

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The only place worth going for a beer in Lijiang. Small place with a super friendly vibe. Great relaxed hangout for locals and travellers alike.

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a lovely place to stay with great views of Yulong xueshan (JadeDragon snow mountain) from the roof! Beautifully decorated and hosts that make you feel like family. A million miles better than most other places locally. I can't recommend this place enough.

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i thought i'd give this place another try as my usual place was closed today. even though there is now more choice, i was not impressed by the menu. they do have an apparently good range of coffees for up to 80 kuai but even a basic latte is Y26 now. the drinks were OK but nothing special and certainly not worth the money. the place looked somehow cleaner too and was certainly busier! why have so many of the cafes in this area decided that it's fine to raise their prices by so much (in some cases almost double)? i doubt i'll be going back. the 2 stars are because it was just OK and they've obviously made some effort.

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not a bad selection of stuff and some of the staff obviously know their way around a bike. however, the 'special' prices for foreigners and the fact that some of the staff will use a big hammer to fix anything keeps me from going back. you could do better.

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I won't go there again. The yoghurt is tasty and the curries are usually ok (they seem to vary in quality depending on the day and time). What really annoys me is the fact that they can't comprehend that I order dishes to eat TOGETHER... if my curry arrives 30 minutes after all the other dishes it's not really acceptable. Then again, neither is the 1 hour wait for the rest of the food or the incorrect dishes being sent. By the way, why can't I sit on the 3rd floor until both of the other floors are packed full? Has it never occurred to them that I might want a quiet meal and, after all, I am paying for it!