@viyida
Kunming healthcare has changed since our experiences. Outpatient pharmacies have allegedly been separated from hospitals - to curtail that abusive practice.
As for the "How to..." - I think that's more the regime of the Gokm editorial and reporting staff...
Thanks much for the info on Angel.
As for the teaching hospitals - I saw that as a bonus as the senior physicians and department heads have to remain professional and competitive (theoretically).
When we were contemplating a maternity hospital - we'd considered the higher priced expat friendly brands - but we went for hospitals with high maternity throughputs instead. The theory was they'd seen significantly more cases than the lower throughput expat hospitals - and would then theoretically respond faster to complications, based on experience.
My wife had the usual complications that come with natural delivery and the post delivery treatment (suturing tears, etc) were immediate and professional, along with the 24-48 hour post-delivery watch and the constant but non-invasive monitoring by the nursing staff.
These high throughput hospitals generally run like super machines - which is what we wanted and weren't disappointed.
As my wife is native Chinese - we didn't have the language barrier so this route only works well, if you have a native speaker present and on-call.
First childbirth is always the most terrifying because of the unknowns. Childbirth in a foreign country where you can't effectively communicate - that's got to be truly terrifying.
We did TWO natural deliveries at two local hospitals. Cost was under ¥10k per baby plus post-natal follow-ups, immunizations, etc,
- but if you're unfamiliar with local Chinese hospitals - it'll be a rather large shock for westerners and definitely not recommended if you don't have conversational chinese skills.
Family members (specifically the husband, but in-laws or relatives will work) are expected to sleep (folding reclining chair does the trick) in the multi-bed room and provide egg broth vitamin soup, feed the newborn every 3 hours (best experience in the world is the first time your new baby drinks formula or breast milk), wash cooking & eating utensils, bring changes of pajamas, and generally pamper and spoil both the mother and newborn child for a week (longer for c-sections).
Chatting with cell mates (if you can communicate), maybe making new friends, networking, camaraderie, providing advice to new parents, listening to advice from veterans, etc.
You can also pay the janitor ladies to help you buy food etc. They usually love the extra income.
Chinese maternity specialty hospitals deliver hundreds of babies a week if not more. The only pain is the crowding and perhaps the hygiene (squat toilets) - but these places are definitely industrialized baby delivery and after-care machines.
My favorite hospital of all is the TCM hospital because the TCM medications are quite literally a fraction of the cost of western meds.
Worst - you have cell mates or relatives that love to do the Kunming hack (smoker's cough thing)...that's pretty gross.
Personally - I'm glad to see Gokm updated the TOS (Terms of Service) to include the "no personal attacks"...
"You must not defame...."
Debate is excellent and we can all learn to see more perspectives or dimensions to an issue - but when debates or posts devolve into personal name calling - well, that's just uncivilized and immature.
And on a personal note - it's probably not necessary to publicly list TOS violators unless it's used to demonstrate or enforce authority.
On a more debatably humorous note - can we also add realtime tallies on numbers of warnings and bans to our screen IDs...
@Geogramatt
Assuming your question was serious - a simple google or bing search will yield a plethora of results. The UN (un.edu) has an excellent article on China and India's definition of "poverty lines", but the information is probably outdated as China's economy zooms ahead. China's National Development & Reform Commission - which manages the national five year plan strategies contains the general high level requirements for sustainable development of this country (en.ndrc.gov.cn).
China's five years plans used to be mocked and ridiculed by the western media - but if you've ever performed or witnessed requirements engineering and the processes and artifacts - you cannot but conclude these artifacts are world class professional documents. The Five Year Plans are essentially high level requirements, which indicate the government's architecture for this country - which are then supposed to be devolved by project owners (government officials) into detailed planning documents for execution, monitoring & controlling, and phase out - following generally accepted globally recognized professional standards for professional project management.
Many of China's sustainable poverty elimination plans included seeding of livestock (chickens, pigs, etc) to enable animal husbandry, to increase annual income of the farmers. Last reports were China had sustainable eliminated poverty for over 800 million citizens, with roughly 70-80 million to go. Xi JinPing's goal is 100% elimination by 2020.
Regardless of definition - the consistent attention to poverty elimination is laudable and China's accomplishment in this area is unparalleled in recorded history - resulting in formal recognition by the UN for its successful efforts in this area.
Occasionally, there are questionable ploys to eliminate poverty - such as merely moving people from poverty stricken areas to a different place, to accomplish the numbers - however moving to more fertile or arable ground with better access to transportation, water, healthcare and education facilities can also be considered an improvement in quality of life.
China's current Five Year Plans call for the industrialization of the rural areas, in a responsible sustainable manner. This next move will involve a major cultural shift in the rural areas as farmers begin to aggregate land and resources, pay more attention to water and soil pollution, and reduce the uses of chemical fertilizers and insecticides.
Animal husbandry is another area of potential aggregation - with tremendous opportunities for the high technologies from developed nations such as the EU (+UK), Japan, and USA.
All of these technologies offer the opportunity of significantly reduced water usage and significantly reduced water pollution. It's actually a rather exciting period of history to watch as this massive country continues its transition into a developed nation and global leader and expands into the belt and road with infrastructure development for its neighbors.
If the China model can be applied along the belt and road - the entire Middle East and Africa will finally have the opportunity to similarly eliminate poverty, develop sustainable economies, and perhaps even make serious dents on global terrorism.
Just stopped by Wicker Basket Beichen again to stock up on frozen pizzas, frozen pies (chicken, beef), cheese, and sliced ham (ask them to slice it for you). Love this place - simple decor, polite helpful nice staff - nothing fancy - but gets the job done.
Finally got around to using Salvador's delivery service - tried it out on the chicken burrito and their bag of nacho chips. Delivery was flawless despite being a bit out of area (≥4km) and the food was still warm.
First experience - excellent (5 stars).
Excellent as always - even with long distance delivery. Now if only the online menu was expanded a little (like the chicken strips...hint hint hint...nudge nudge...wink wink).
Just stopped into Prague Beichen for dinner a few nights ago - and I'm shocked at how good their food is - five star international hotel quality. Even the fruit-based drink was made from genuine fruit - as opposed to the usual domestic fare of fruit syrup with chunks of fruit added. The food was well-presented and "plated".
The restaurant itself has had a major overhaul and now occupies both the ground floor and the second floor - well illuminated without being blinding, wide open and airy space (2nd floor), nice attentive but non-intrusive service, and reasonable prices for excellent cuisine.
Will absolutely return several times more, to savor and experience other menu items.
A pleasant surprise and culinary delight - great place for a date or even a quiet business meeting. Excellent atmosphere.
Excellent coffee, tea, and simple meals - to include waffles and various incarnations of sandwiches. Ground floor is NO SMOKING, second floor (where they hide the bathrooms), SMOKING.
Extraordinarily popular place - beautiful location, typical service for Kunming - which means when it's good, it's stellar, when it's bad - it's terrifying - so they have a quality consistency problem that's reflected in the various staff and shifts.
However - it's still a great place to meet, hang out, chill, relax, etc. Just remember to DIY (do it yourself) most of the time.
As 'New China' turns 70, a look back at National Days past in Kunming
Posted byThe Beijing Tian AnMen activities are available for view on most major Chinese streaming sites - to include Youku and Aiqiyi...
Getting Away: Lijiang's Mu Family Mansion
Posted byGreat article...that French historical photographer never visited and took photos?
Patrick Scally hands GK editorial reins to Vera van de Nieuwenhof
Posted byI was wondering what's next for Patrick. Wish him well in his future endeavors.
Report: Poverty levels continue to drop significantly across Yunnan
Posted by@Geogramatt
Assuming your question was serious - a simple google or bing search will yield a plethora of results. The UN (un.edu) has an excellent article on China and India's definition of "poverty lines", but the information is probably outdated as China's economy zooms ahead. China's National Development & Reform Commission - which manages the national five year plan strategies contains the general high level requirements for sustainable development of this country (en.ndrc.gov.cn).
China's five years plans used to be mocked and ridiculed by the western media - but if you've ever performed or witnessed requirements engineering and the processes and artifacts - you cannot but conclude these artifacts are world class professional documents. The Five Year Plans are essentially high level requirements, which indicate the government's architecture for this country - which are then supposed to be devolved by project owners (government officials) into detailed planning documents for execution, monitoring & controlling, and phase out - following generally accepted globally recognized professional standards for professional project management.
Report: Poverty levels continue to drop significantly across Yunnan
Posted byMany of China's sustainable poverty elimination plans included seeding of livestock (chickens, pigs, etc) to enable animal husbandry, to increase annual income of the farmers. Last reports were China had sustainable eliminated poverty for over 800 million citizens, with roughly 70-80 million to go. Xi JinPing's goal is 100% elimination by 2020.
Regardless of definition - the consistent attention to poverty elimination is laudable and China's accomplishment in this area is unparalleled in recorded history - resulting in formal recognition by the UN for its successful efforts in this area.
Occasionally, there are questionable ploys to eliminate poverty - such as merely moving people from poverty stricken areas to a different place, to accomplish the numbers - however moving to more fertile or arable ground with better access to transportation, water, healthcare and education facilities can also be considered an improvement in quality of life.
China's current Five Year Plans call for the industrialization of the rural areas, in a responsible sustainable manner. This next move will involve a major cultural shift in the rural areas as farmers begin to aggregate land and resources, pay more attention to water and soil pollution, and reduce the uses of chemical fertilizers and insecticides.
Animal husbandry is another area of potential aggregation - with tremendous opportunities for the high technologies from developed nations such as the EU (+UK), Japan, and USA.
All of these technologies offer the opportunity of significantly reduced water usage and significantly reduced water pollution. It's actually a rather exciting period of history to watch as this massive country continues its transition into a developed nation and global leader and expands into the belt and road with infrastructure development for its neighbors.
If the China model can be applied along the belt and road - the entire Middle East and Africa will finally have the opportunity to similarly eliminate poverty, develop sustainable economies, and perhaps even make serious dents on global terrorism.