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@kawakarpo
As stated before the change of contracting malaria are not that big and nowadays good and effective treatment is available. This makes the need for prophylactic treatment less needed.
Your indications of where you go are rather global. If you stay at an air-conditioned hotel in these places your chance of contracting malaria are pretty slim. If you stay with local farmers, especially when they have pigs then your change of contracting malaria and dengue are much bigger.
Burgon stated that he would be staying in the jungle for a couple of weeks. Question is is this the real jungle or not, for some people 5Km outside Kunming is already jungle (And for some any other street apart from Wenlinjie)
Much depends on your own protective measures; long sleeves, long trousers and closed shoes make quite a difference. Protecting exposed skin with DEET and sleeping under a good mosquito net. As said malaria is well treatable especially if artisunate is at hand. Dengue is a completely different story and should be avoided at all cost. The protective measures are the same as for malaria.

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@Dazzer
Evil pharma:
You are very unlikely to find Malerone in rural Laos (And if they are probably fake).
This for the simple reason that it is far the expensive for that population.
Glaxo Wellcome markets the stuff claiming its level of side effects is less than other anti malarials. This is true but by doing so it execrated the levels of side effects of its competitors. Especially Mefloquine can have serious side effects and stressing this was a good way of marketing Malerone.
This way they can keep the prices for the stuff very high at at least 2 USD/day for prophylactic use.
Glaxo Wellcome did provide some Malerone to anti malaria programs but this was largely seen as a way to polish up their image.
At the same time Malerone came on the market Artemisinin-based combination therapy was introduced and this turned out to be very effective and cheaper than Malerone. Without this Glaxo Wellcome could have made a killing on Malerone. Now Malerone is mainly marketed at those seeking a prophylactic against malaria.

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@Geezer
Well if as you say yourself that you do not know how significant the malaria problem is than shut up and don’t contribute to the discussion.

The lack of availability of anti malaria medication in Kunming is indeed due to the absence of malaria here but he already stated that he would go into the jungle of Laos.
In rural Laos there is plenty of anti malaria medication. It's on the shelf next to the Prozac.

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@Dazzer
Geezer is right that this was addressed at him as well because he is the one quoting from things like: Breitbart.com, Dailycaller.com and Nationalreview.com and the like. Member of what I call the Breitbart crowd.

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This is the parking place of the Tiger Leaping Gorge. Looks like it happened at night because during the day this parking is full of cars and busses. The road is on the left of the picture and must be closed off as well. Clearing this will take some time because one cannot push the debris just over the edge because there is the Tiger Leaping Gorge itself. Might be nice to have a second big stone laying in the middle of the stream but that rock is bit too large to move in one piece.

As usual in reports in the local press the numbers are wrong. The big rock in the middle alone is 30 cubic meters (compared to the buildings in the back). The debris must be chopped up and even blasted to smaller pieces and then carted off. Pity that these horrible plaster murals on the hillside have not been destroyed.

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I don't know when you went to Luguhu but the road between Lijiang and Lugu has improved enormously over the last few years and the new road between Lugu lake and Ninglang has been completed and is now one of the best roads in Yunnan. From there the road is the old road to Lijiang and a bit congested at certain spots. Indeed just outside Lijiang the road is a total mess because of road-works. The old road is completely destroyed by heavy trucks here going between the cement works and Lijiang (A common problem in China; modern trucks can carry more load then the road have been designed and build for and therefore destroy the roads).
I travelled this road earlier this month and it took me 5 hours to cover the Lugu Lake / Lijiang distance. Once the road works have been completed it might take 4 hours. That is half the time it took me in 2009.
Travelling from Xichang in Sichuan still takes a full day and from Chengdu I would do it in two days. (Many road improvement works here as well.).
Your statement that "the Sichuan side was much less developed than the opposite shore" I cannot agree with. On the contrary: Apart from Luoshui (The only village at the lake) the Yunnan side has hardly been touched by tourism while the Sichuan side has seen rapid touristic development.
One of the nice things of Lugu lake is/was that it is less over-run by tourists. Something that spoiled it for me in Lijiang and Shangri-La. A new airport will hasten the process of it becoming one more of the "shopping mall" tourist towns like Lijiang. Already now I noticed that more and more local business women (The local Mosuo culture is matrilineal and this mend that most shops, restaurants and hotels were owned and run by women) have been replaced by outsiders (Mostly Sichuan businessmen) and that part of the atmosphere has gone.
Note as well that the area has an access fee of 80 RMB per person.

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