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Residence Permit - 2015 only

CromsonCromson (145 posts) • 0

As my visa is coming to an end soon, my company asked for informations about the chinese greencard, since i'm in Kunming for about 7 years now.
They told it's possible if i'm married to a chinese citizen... check.

After we did some research, we found out the following:

10 year visa aka "chinese greencard" you can get (maybe, if you're lucky) in the place were your wife's hukou (户口) is.
Main requirements... money, money and more money or you are the special expert helping them building one of the new Nuklear-Plants or you have lot's of money that you want to spend here.

At least over 12万人民币 on the chinese bank... owning a house on your name. That's were i put the paper down and just will stay with 1 or 2 years residence permit.

I know a guy who tried for years... they'd send him from A to B, than back to A, later to B from there to C... only that D is telling him he need some more papers. Until now no "hassle-card", just did spend a lot of money in the process. Not worth it, at least in Kunming... no one that i know of here with the card.

Alien (3819 posts) • 0

The 10-year visa available in Hong Kong is not the same as the 'Chinese greencard' you're talking about, I think. Will check out what this one here available is - probably the 10-year tourist visa.
Anyway, a poster here named 'walter' got a 10 year visa at the PRC Embassy in Vientiane, Laos, overnight recently.

laotou (1714 posts) • 0

I haven't looked up the HK visa - but if it's a "tourist" visa as alluded - sounds more like a 10-year multiple re-entry visa as opposed to a 10 year resident visa. Most resident visas allow one to stay and work at any and or all forms of legal employment, until the expiration of the visa, ostensibly the same as a native-born or naturalized citizen (minus certain rights of native or naturalized citizens).

A tourist visa merely permits multiple re-entries into a country - without needing to apply or purchase single-purpose visas, although the duration of stay is still limited - typically from a few weeks to a few months.

Like most countries, even HK requires an application for a resident's visa - to include evidence of finance, gainful employment (if you're not wealthy), and legal sovereign travel documents (passports, transportation tickets, etc).

China's resident visa is still relatively new and Kunming is definitely NOT the most sophisticated province when it comes to implementing (or even understanding) Beijing laws and guidelines - even with training, actual implementation can be inconsistent due to lack of experience. This is true of any service-based industry - in any country in the world.

When the employees don't know - they try to shuffle you around until you give up - covering up their own incompetence and or the shortfalls of the system as implemented.

Government systems are rarely implemented professionally.

In the USA - the nationwide healthcare system - commonly known as Obama-care, was a massive disaster at launch. The website crashed shortly after launch, the business model demonstrated significant deficiencies in the system as advertised, a FUBAR SNAFU and rather shameful for a nation which spawned globally recognized high technology brands such as Apple, Microsoft, Google, HP, IBM, ORACLE, NASA, the internet, etc.

The business and technical launch of Obamacare, from a professional commercial perspective was amateurish, incompetent, negligent, and as a US taxpayer - fraudulent, wasteful, and abusive and unforgivably incompetently unprofessional, for a project of this magnitude and size.

For a country with one of the world's most advanced technologies - the Obamacare launch was utterly shameful...but as usual, seems I diverged from the primary topic...

Back to Residence Permit - 2015 ONLY.

HFCAMPO (3062 posts) • 0

Went to PSB (2016) to renew my visa (Residence Permit). Things went smooth as silk (10-15 minutes). Now that my wife has a Kunming Hukuo she does not have to get a Temporary Kunming ID and this is really a time saver.

1 - Visa Application + photo on 1st floor (30 Yuan).
2 - Passport + copy, previous RP + copy, latest entry and exit stamp into China.
3 - Marriage Book + copy.
4 - Local police Registration Form + copy.
5 - Wife's ID card + copy.
6 - Wife's Hukou + copy.
7 - Invitation letter that was used in the past has now been changed - now there is a form your wife must fill out. Get the form from PSB.

1 year RP = 400 RMB
2 year RP = 800 + 472 (Physical) = 1272 RMB.

Note: If your spouse is NOT from Kunming then she must get a 1 year Temporary Kunming ID card at the local police station. Takes about 20-30 days. Wife must prove she is a resident so she will need rental contract or letter from employer or student ID card.

Hong Kong: Since my wife changed her Hukou last year, she renewed her chinese passport and Hong Kong passport while we were at PSB - The Hong Kong passport (5 years) has now been replaced with a HK card (10 years).

hanshan (32 posts) • 0

Temporary Kunming ID card must be 6 or more months old. For this reasson they not accept us to do resident permit in KM, my wife'sTemporary Kunming ID card is just new and they not accept any other prove we live in KM for more than six years...

Hotwater (205 posts) • 0

Going slightly off-topic bit picking up on your last point HFCAMPO.

My wife (we're in GZ, wife has Jiangxi Hukou but GZ ID card registration) has one of there HK pass cards. Even with this card she can only get two entry's to HK on it each time. She still has to go and apply to get the card "topped up" with new entries each time she used up the two. The only benefit she gets is to be able to use the E-channels at immigration to speed things up. Better than in the past but still another "visa" to apply for.

tallamerican (396 posts) • 0

HFCAMPO, i was not happy when i found out my 2 year permit was one month short of 2 years. From Oct 15,2015 to Sept 15, 2017. Only reason i did physical was because i thought i could get a 3 year permit. Not sure worth the cost and pain of getting for only 2 years.

JanJal (1248 posts) • 0

hanshan: We renewed my residence permit earlier in 2016, and I believe my wife applied for (and received) new temporary Kunming ID just few weeks before that.

JanJal (1248 posts) • 0

Or do you mean that your wife just got her first temporary Kunming ID?

My wife had one for several years now, renewed yearly.

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