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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Friendliest - and Nastiest - people in China?

OK, then: what stereotypes are to be the subject of this thread? As you say, we all know there are exceptions. How about: Western foreigners are the nastiest group of people in China(?) How does that compare with Hunanese? (and Why would be interesting too)
Or is this whole thread just bs?

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Friendliest - and Nastiest - people in China?

I didn't apologize.

Anyway, this illustrates my point: what governments do, pretending to be people, is often believed in by the people they pretend to be. But I want to talk about groups of really friendly, or really nasty, real people in China, and who they are friendly or nasty towards - as well as why, if anyone's interested.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Friendliest - and Nastiest - people in China?

Yes, I know, but I'm talking about actual people who are in China. And Americans and America have certainly been in Chinese bad books in the past, especially when virtually none of them were here (i.e, 1950-80) - in other words, it seems to respond more to political, economic, propagandistic etc. realities than to actual contact between actual people. .
So who do people find to be the friendliest/nastiest foreigners in China, who the friendliest Chinese - geographically or otherwise? I think it's particularly interesting to pay special attention to Foreigners, since most people on the forums are western foreigners and most of these probably associate with other western foreigners more than with Chinese (exceptions, I'm sure).

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Friendliest - and Nastiest - people in China?

Well, ok, but note that Japanese comix and manga are also pretty popular in China, as are many US singers and actors. It's also the case that a lot of Chinese people have told me that they 'like America' or 'like Americans' and 'hate Japan' or 'hate Japanese', although they don't know many people from either of these places - yet reasonable friendliness seems to be extended to Americans more easily than it is towards Japanese, despite the fact (or my impression) that Japanese behave more politely in China, as a whole.
But it seems the drift of the forum is largely about how (mostly 'western') foreigners feel towards people they meet more or less anonymously on the street in different parts of the country, etc. So how do people feel about foreigners in, say, Shanghai?

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.