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Forums > Living in Kunming > Kunming FRAUD

Thanks ROBMED for this update. Good that the consulate did something.
And again this shows: "If it looks to good to be true it probably is"

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Peters99 conclusions here and on the parallel discussion, are what scientist call hearsay. To really find out if there is malaria in an area one has to do a proper study and know what the parameters are. One has to take into account as well that in areas with malaria the local population has build up some level of resistance and they experience malaria more as a common fever. A household survey is needed because one does not see malaria patients walking in the street. As well asking adults only is not a good thing because in area with malaria the grownups don’t suffer that much and malaria is more regarded as a children’s disease.
There can be a tendency as well to downplay the issue in order to not worry you, not to scare away tourist or possible investors, not to look backward.
Only observation does not work; example: I never saw a blind person in Kunming so there are no blind people in Kunming.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Anti Malarial - Malerone

@Burgon
Malerone is a brand name drug also the patent expired some years ago. Still there is no Chinese supplier. Since it has been marketed mainly as a prophylactic it was mainly aimed at the tourist/traveller section and this enabled Glaxo Wellcome to keep the price very high. These factors make it very unlikely to find the drug here in Kunming.

The area you go to has not a high prevalence of malaria and if you pick it up it can be treated well and effectively nowadays, this makes the need for prophylactic treatment less of an issue. Still it is good to take precautions because there is a change of Dengue fever as well. Thus long sleeves and trousers and closed shoes (Or like Peter99 double socks) and DEET on exposed skin when you really go into the jungle or stay in farmer huts.

The “Yunnan International Travel Healthcare Centre” that Napoleon mentioned (I presume because a entry exit clinic does not exist) is at Min Xiou Section near metro station Rixin Two blocks south of the station along the river). Doubt that they have the medication but might be able to sent you to the right place.

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Sorry two more points.

The article states that 600 Km in China has been finished. However 156 Km still has to be done. It took 12 years to build the 265 Km stretch from Dali to near Longling. This with plenty of money from the Go West development program. It would be another 1000 Km to Bangladesh.

At this moment there is not a single road between Myanmar and Bangladesh. One reason for this being the dispute between the two countries and the Rohringya ethnic group issue in the area.

I is amazing that these stories keep popping up. The statements are pure political and have no relation to real life.

Any road or rail-link would have to go through Myanmar and anybody who has ever travelled through the north of Myanmar knows that the whole thing is utopic.

There are simply no proper roads in the north of Myanmar. The roads that are there are built more than half a century ago and in appalling condition. Elephants are used to pull vehicles through the worst spots. The reason why these roads are bad is because this is what the local powers that be want it. Better roads would facilitate the movement of the government army and the local 'rebel groups', for their own safety, don't want that.

The government of India don't want it either and well for three reasons: 1. Better roads, or roads at all, in Nagaland would make it possible for the Naga who are in opposition to the central government to easily flee into Myanmar (Nagaland is on both sides of the border.)(Be aware that all the border provinces in India in this area are so instable that foreigners are not even allowed to go there) 2. The road leads from the border through Assam through an area where local opposition groups close of the existing roads for more than a hundred days per year. To put pressure on the central government they declare "ban's" which are general strikes and anybody moving on these days is likely to get his vehicle burned down. More traffic on the road gives the opposition more power and the government of India would have to allocate more force to control the area. 3. A direct trade link with China would swarm India with Chinese products (Chinese products are cheap and high quality compared with Indian products). This thus leads to big opposition from the local industry and trade.

Optimist will make a point that there is a pipeline (Still under construction) from the Bay of Bengal in Myanmar to China so it is possible. Well indeed in this case but the main reason is that Myanmar exports it natural gas from their off-shore fields in the Bay of Bengal to China through this pipe. This forms the single highest export and source of income for the Myanmar government and therefore they are willing to put the extra security in place. What helps as well is that the pipeline is much further south and passes through less instable area.
In short "don't keep your breath".

I just cycled along the lake for a bit on the West side. There is a new road more or less hugging the lake side which is great for cycling. The road is reached from the road leading from Dali (Old town) to Caicun Warf. 3/4th of the way down you find the road there crossing the fields. The road is surprisingly well sign posted Erhai lake round road (also the cut off to Xizhou is not indicated). Where the road leads south I don't know but it would be nice if it started in XiaGuan.

Cycling from XiaGuan to Dali on Road#221 I stayed on the cycle part which is separated by the car part by a crash-barrier. This might save you from cars but on the other side there is a several meter straight drop into the paddy fields. Near Dali that track was suddenly blocked by two truck-loads of fresh dung blocking the way so a proper cycling track into Dali would be great.

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