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@blobbles: correct about every generation, etc. However, there remains the question of whether or not it's a good idea - when things are called 'progress', it doesn't automatically mean they're better - no point in allowing others to make decisions for you, complete with all the hype involved (IT'S NEW! Kneejerk reaction for many is that 'it's better' (especially in the US - look at all advertising, which is not in place to tell you the truth about anything, or to help you think clearly)). The ability to communicate with people all over the planet is indeed a fine thing, as well as the access to information (and bypass censors, etc.) But when the person with whom you're having a face-to-face conversation is continually dropping out of it to check the weather, the exact time of day of Charlemagne's birth or whatever, it strikes me that something is happening that reduces actual physical presence to some kind of secondary importance. So it's a matter of degree - but what does it mean when this all becomes a social norm to (IMO) overdue it? Why is this happening? What's wrong with 'the meat world' these days when everybody seems to want to get out of it as often as possible?

@magnifico: Yes, it's their choice, fine. Thinking and choosing is fine (cf. lemmings). And I agree it's cool up to a point. But why is it that people seem more & more interested in NOT dealing with those who are physically around them? Isn't this a bit anti-social? Anyway, a chat is not the same when it's only done with words, usually words in print. Do you smile to people with smileyfaces? A little one-dimensional, isn't it? Think of the by-now famous & widespread social ineptitude of geeks etc.

All a matter of degree, all open to free choice, but the choices people make say something about who they are, both individually and collectively, and the reasons for them being made in the way that they are reflect influences that they/we may not be fully aware of.
Look for forthcoming novel on this theme by a former foreign resident of Kunming.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Things to do besides going to bars?

And there's always the study of Chinese for those who can't yet function independently in it - tends to broaden one's ideas, social horizons and interests, as well as deepen one's independence and ameliorate many cultural annoyances and frustrations.
You could also get involved in charitable work, something to help even the social playing field - rural kids' education, for instance - though this may require a little cash and time away from the bars - but...let's not leave out the bars.

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I tend to agree with the drift of your comment, but I'm not sure how I would define insanity, and there is no 'normality' beyond the norm (generally-agreed-upon standard) that the society in question happens to hold; and the norm varies in space & time. Maybe that's rather pedantic...at any rate I agree that things are getting what, from my perspective, seems weird - I tend to do best either when writing, which for me is not about 'making friends', or when I meet people in the 5 'normal' dimensions of perception, face to face. Walking down the street or riding public transport surrounded by people more than 50% of whom are involved more with some electronic device in their hands &/or ears than they are with their surroundings is a bit sad.
As for comments here, I can't quite understand why people turn disagreement into personal competition, complete with insults - as if a statement can be disproved or made irrelevant by attacking the person who has made it, rather than by dealing with its internal logic and correspondence to agreed-upon 'reality' (whatever that is these days), regardless of how it is arrived at. I think ego-competitions over who's correct & who's not are simply signs of weak egos. Comments?

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Done. Could have used more participants and contributions, but I think it should be chalked up as a success. Not another fundraiser for this organization scheduled for Kunming in November, I think - believe it will be oriented towards (mostly foreign) live music fans and drinkers.

Similar formations in Sichuan at either Huanglang or Huanglong (2 different places, and I can't remember which is which), with the difference that those are not so white, but have some color to them.

Third try right: ok, actually Yi's book is mostly about the people in the hills rather than the Dai, but the whole situation in Banna involves a lot of practices that were ecologically sensible until modern times, and the issue of the rubber plantations is dealt with.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.