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@kawakarpo
As stated before the change of contracting malaria are not that big and nowadays good and effective treatment is available. This makes the need for prophylactic treatment less needed.
Your indications of where you go are rather global. If you stay at an air-conditioned hotel in these places your chance of contracting malaria are pretty slim. If you stay with local farmers, especially when they have pigs then your change of contracting malaria and dengue are much bigger.
Burgon stated that he would be staying in the jungle for a couple of weeks. Question is is this the real jungle or not, for some people 5Km outside Kunming is already jungle (And for some any other street apart from Wenlinjie)
Much depends on your own protective measures; long sleeves, long trousers and closed shoes make quite a difference. Protecting exposed skin with DEET and sleeping under a good mosquito net. As said malaria is well treatable especially if artisunate is at hand. Dengue is a completely different story and should be avoided at all cost. The protective measures are the same as for malaria.

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@Dazzer
Evil pharma:
You are very unlikely to find Malerone in rural Laos (And if they are probably fake).
This for the simple reason that it is far the expensive for that population.
Glaxo Wellcome markets the stuff claiming its level of side effects is less than other anti malarials. This is true but by doing so it execrated the levels of side effects of its competitors. Especially Mefloquine can have serious side effects and stressing this was a good way of marketing Malerone.
This way they can keep the prices for the stuff very high at at least 2 USD/day for prophylactic use.
Glaxo Wellcome did provide some Malerone to anti malaria programs but this was largely seen as a way to polish up their image.
At the same time Malerone came on the market Artemisinin-based combination therapy was introduced and this turned out to be very effective and cheaper than Malerone. Without this Glaxo Wellcome could have made a killing on Malerone. Now Malerone is mainly marketed at those seeking a prophylactic against malaria.

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@Geezer
Well if as you say yourself that you do not know how significant the malaria problem is than shut up and don’t contribute to the discussion.

The lack of availability of anti malaria medication in Kunming is indeed due to the absence of malaria here but he already stated that he would go into the jungle of Laos.
In rural Laos there is plenty of anti malaria medication. It's on the shelf next to the Prozac.

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@Dazzer
Geezer is right that this was addressed at him as well because he is the one quoting from things like: Breitbart.com, Dailycaller.com and Nationalreview.com and the like. Member of what I call the Breitbart crowd.

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Sorry two more points.

The article states that 600 Km in China has been finished. However 156 Km still has to be done. It took 12 years to build the 265 Km stretch from Dali to near Longling. This with plenty of money from the Go West development program. It would be another 1000 Km to Bangladesh.

At this moment there is not a single road between Myanmar and Bangladesh. One reason for this being the dispute between the two countries and the Rohringya ethnic group issue in the area.

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I is amazing that these stories keep popping up. The statements are pure political and have no relation to real life.

Any road or rail-link would have to go through Myanmar and anybody who has ever travelled through the north of Myanmar knows that the whole thing is utopic.

There are simply no proper roads in the north of Myanmar. The roads that are there are built more than half a century ago and in appalling condition. Elephants are used to pull vehicles through the worst spots. The reason why these roads are bad is because this is what the local powers that be want it. Better roads would facilitate the movement of the government army and the local 'rebel groups', for their own safety, don't want that.

The government of India don't want it either and well for three reasons: 1. Better roads, or roads at all, in Nagaland would make it possible for the Naga who are in opposition to the central government to easily flee into Myanmar (Nagaland is on both sides of the border.)(Be aware that all the border provinces in India in this area are so instable that foreigners are not even allowed to go there) 2. The road leads from the border through Assam through an area where local opposition groups close of the existing roads for more than a hundred days per year. To put pressure on the central government they declare "ban's" which are general strikes and anybody moving on these days is likely to get his vehicle burned down. More traffic on the road gives the opposition more power and the government of India would have to allocate more force to control the area. 3. A direct trade link with China would swarm India with Chinese products (Chinese products are cheap and high quality compared with Indian products). This thus leads to big opposition from the local industry and trade.

Optimist will make a point that there is a pipeline (Still under construction) from the Bay of Bengal in Myanmar to China so it is possible. Well indeed in this case but the main reason is that Myanmar exports it natural gas from their off-shore fields in the Bay of Bengal to China through this pipe. This forms the single highest export and source of income for the Myanmar government and therefore they are willing to put the extra security in place. What helps as well is that the pipeline is much further south and passes through less instable area.
In short "don't keep your breath".

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I just cycled along the lake for a bit on the West side. There is a new road more or less hugging the lake side which is great for cycling. The road is reached from the road leading from Dali (Old town) to Caicun Warf. 3/4th of the way down you find the road there crossing the fields. The road is surprisingly well sign posted Erhai lake round road (also the cut off to Xizhou is not indicated). Where the road leads south I don't know but it would be nice if it started in XiaGuan.

Cycling from XiaGuan to Dali on Road#221 I stayed on the cycle part which is separated by the car part by a crash-barrier. This might save you from cars but on the other side there is a several meter straight drop into the paddy fields. Near Dali that track was suddenly blocked by two truck-loads of fresh dung blocking the way so a proper cycling track into Dali would be great.

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