Pretty good article on vaccines: Dr. Robert Malone, mRNA Vaccine Inventor, on the Bioethics of Experimental Vaccines and the ‘Ultimate Gaslighting’ think you need a veeppn

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@lover You are mistaken on my feeling about Trump. I was a “Never Trumper” until he was nominated and did not vote for him in 2016. That said, I was surprised and impressed with the economic successes he made; lowest unemployment overall, high employment rates for Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women plus strong GDP growth. The US income disparity also lessened with wage growth of the lowest paid workers exceeding the highest paid.

As for the “malaria medication,” it seems Fauci’s own National Institutes of Health - published on August 22, 2005, under the heading “Chloroquine Is a potent Inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread” Write the researchers “We report that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”

Said Dr Fauci's NIH in 2005. “Concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection.” Fauci's researchers add: “chloroquine
can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV”

Neither the WHO or US CDC advocate for the lockdowns that Fauci seems to, maybe, might have called for. Fauci has flipped and flopped using weasel words like may, maybe, could, possibly, “at this point in time” so often I agree it is difficult to state when he was actually wrong. On masks, he was sincere, smooth and convincing when he said “there is no reason” for Americans to walk around wearing masks other than “for show.” Today, Fauci is fully vaccinated but wears double masks.

Again, neither the WHO or US CDC advocate for the drastic lockdowns Fauci favors.

Lastly, questions are finally being asked as to how and why Fauci, despite Obama's on virus "gain-of-function" research in 2014, continued to finance such research. Watch the news.

@Dazzer But Trump did use the wartime production act, at least twice, or at least used it to gain "cooperation." Even the Great Saint Fauci said that masks were not necessary while he was advising Trump.

Trump uses the word "hoax" a lot; it is a poor word choice, in my opinion. I don't remember Trump using "hoax" re COVID, but I'll give you that one.

"created a culture of covid denial, leading to the additional deaths of 100s of 1000s of Americans" Actually, there was a time when two Million American deaths were forecasted. Today American deaths are said to be 567K. That number is legitimately disputable and, given the odd cause of death rules, maybe overstated.

For example, hospitals were paid 3X the government money if COVID was the cause of death. In one case, a guy was shot twice, but a postmortem PCR test indicated the presence of COVID, and COVID was given as the cause of death. In New York, elderly persons with COVID were moved to nursing homes, and 15K vulnerable old folks in those homes died of COVID. Human nature at its finest: Pay more for COVID deaths. You get more COVID deaths. As the Governor of New York said, "They're dead, who cares."

Yes, there is a reluctance to get vaccinated. There are multiple reasons, and they don't have much to do with Trump. First the issue of side effects. Generally, there is little information as bad news is being suppressed. There have been some bad batches but a remarkable silence on side effects or adverse reactions. It is also difficult to schedule an appointment to get the shot as ALL APPOINTMENTS are filled in minutes every week.

Everyone I know, 100%, has, or is, getting vaccinated.

But this week, the head of the CDC said once vaccinated, you can begin to enjoy life. Great! But Saint Fauci wasted no time in getting on TV saying "No." Even vaccinated, and we are to keep wearing masks, only congregate in small family groups in private homes, keep social distance. Biden echoed this news. And they are saying this is going to be the protocol until 2022 sometime.

If 3.5 Million vaccine doses are being given daily, 1% of Americans, I have to call BS. First, Americans refusing to get vaccinated, and second, that Orange Man Bad is the reason.

@Lover I will accept your China stats without comment.

As for Trump, well I guess mobilizing government and pharma companies into action, contracting for hundreds of millions of undeveloped vaccines, and having two viable vaccines being delivered into American shoulders in nine months rather than the typical four or five years (Biden got his first jab a month before he took office) and tasking military logistics experts organize production supplies and plan vaccine distribution sorta shows a modicum of seriousness.

Biden's contribution was to proclaim he would have 100 million doses delivered in 100 days at a point when vaccine production was well ramped up, and the average rate of shots was well over 700K per day by the day he was sworn in. When this was pointed out to Biden, his response was to order a few hundred million more doses of already developed vaccine.

Trump, for all his bluster and mean tweets, did what business leaders do: He organized leaders, set goals and targets, and applied pressure when needed. Trump led the orchestra, set the tempo and things happened.

Including the US in "those not taking it not serious" makes me wonder.

With a population of about 330 Million the US has performed 415 Million COVID tests.

Vaccine dose administered per day in the US are running at 3.5 Million (7 day average) and about 39% of the U.S. population has received at least one vaccination and 24% is fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

The seven-day average of daily US deaths is 714 on 16 April.

US immunity, fully vaccinated plus cases, is about 33%. Given that each day in the US about 1% of the population, 3.5 Million of the mostly vulnerable people, is getting a dose of, one or another, vaccine, the case rate is expected to decline.

The US uses "PCR" testing which is somewhat problematic and another topic.