@Grace If you believe that Jesus is YOUR salvation then good for you and hope you live a happy life. Many people don't hold your view. In China and Asia most are Buddhist or Muslim. Just live your own life and stop trying to bring in Jesus. You'll have more friends.
what lost girls are you referring to that are being given psychotherapy? prostitutes?
Jesus was an alien that visited Earth 2000 years ago. We still need him to help us suck out the pollution and chemtrails through the ozone hole so try not to diss him too much.
(*tongue in cheek intended*)
Actually he might of been an inter-dimensional being. He could have been a time traveler. He "could 've been a contender".
nothing wrong with peddling faith, unsubstantiated beliefs. plenty of that on here already. have you seen in the air quality thread.
Who hasn't. I heard it's the 'hottest' trend in all of Gokunming. Ha..ha.
Who hasn't. I heard it's the 'hottest' trend in all of Gokunming. Ha..ha.
@Gracejin
You go ahead and keep on proselytizing if that makes you happy. Just be aware that religions are tightly controlled to avoid religion becoming a public nuisance - as you may recall, China has a long history of religious cults infecting the people and politics, causing untold suffering and death.
That being said - Jesus won't lift a finger to directly help or avert AIDS and other STDs. He works through his believers, such as you.
So if you sincerely feel moved or motivated in this particular sector of social health and welfare - devote your life to it - get up and go do something. The needs of those in suffering or soon to enter this life of misery and suffering from either poor, coerced, or lack of choices are infinite. Their loved ones similarly suffer - parents, children, spouses, friends (friends tend to run abandon).
You are obviously overflowing with love and compassion - don't waste your time sharing it here - it serves no value. Go minister to the poor, the orphans, unwed or widowed mothers, and those in suffering and in need.
And...please keep us apprised of your activities, your successes and your failures.
And ... church has nothing to do with salvation. What you do has nothing to do with salvation (good works) or damnation (with a few minor designated abominations).
Christ did not separate himself from the people - he dived into the masses to teach and administer compassion.
Based on your current or future planned skill sets and emotional state of maturity - choose where and how you want to serve, then go do it. Minister to those in need - their hearts are open - not to those who scoff and mock - with hardened hearts.
The quest for salvation is a war - learn to choose your battles as opposed to shooting randomly, hoping to score some targets. Be a good steward of your gifts and use them well.
Your ability to sustain determines the strength of your faith - but it's ok to fall down, to fail, to get depressed - take a break, then get right back up and keep on fighting...to share love and compassion in a world without love, without compassion.
That being said, you should also remember that the deities (trinity) you intend to serve are not cute cuddly plushy toys. The Christian, Hebrew, and Islamic God also exhibits some seriously nasty, vindictive, jealous, and anger management issues...to include genocide (Sodom & Gomorrah), mass extinction (Noah's Ark), etc ad infinitum.
Funnily enough, I just read this article today about the growing number of Christians in China.... interesting read:
Would love to see Lao Tzu, Confucius and Jesus in a debate on religion in China :)
@Gracejin I normally find myself diametrically opposed to Laotou but not on this occasion. Moreover I'm envious of the gracious way he discusses this issue, almost to the point where I hesitate to add absolutely anything. However, my personal experience compels me to personalise his final paragraph.
The concept of 'heaven' can only be explained by the contrasting 'hell'. Along with the threat of hell, Christianity further traumatises some believers (I would call them victims) with ideas of purgatory and limbo. The latter I find despicable. I now believe my Mother was driven almost insane because my youngest brother's twin sister died and was buried without being christened. A ghastly individual with the title of 'vicar' explained to my Mother that my sister, my mother's child, would remain in limbo. Fortunately I had a number of elder brothers who shielded me from these religious threats. My only regret is that I wasted so much time as an agnostic before arriving at the only rational destination for me - atheism. Gracejin, do everything you feel you have to do, but DO NOT destroy people mentally with these outrageous religious threats. Here in China there are few elder brothers to explain that this is all bullshit. As for the mental torture my Mother must have gone through, I have nothing but contempt for people who cause so much mental torture by propagating this type of nonsense.
