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Forums > Living in Kunming > Tax-free allowance for visiting relatives expenses

Geezer: Firstly, there isn't always employer in China who would act as tax collector.

Secondly, everyone who earns over 120 000 RMB a year, is required to file separate annual tax return, and it is in this process where additional income such as allowances can be filed. If those allowances are filed with monthly income, I don't know how to process.

Below I will copy summary which I compiled from Chinese government's official English translations, regarding "housing allowance" part of the tax-free allowances,, for another discussion elsewhere.

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Roughly speaking, China's legal and regulatory system breaks down to Laws, Regulations, and Circulars. Laws form the high level framework, Regulations detail implementations, and Circulars clarify individual points of concern.

Legal framework for subject of "housing allowance" comes from _Individual Income Tax Law of the People's Republic of China_(english.mofcom.gov.cn/[...] which states following:

"For the taxpayer who have no domicile in China but derive wages and salaries from sources within China, or have domicile in China but derive wages and salaries from sources outside China, the additional deduction for expenses shall be allowed on the basis of the average income level, living standard and the changes of exchange rates. the scope of application and amount of the additional deduction for expenses shall be regulated by the State Council."

Those regulations mentioned in the law are: _Regulations for the Implementation of the Individual Income Tax Law of the People's Republic of China_ (www.chinatax.gov.cn/2013/n2925/n2956/c310063/content.html).

These regulations describe in more detail, what constitutes "income from wages and salaries":

"Article 8 The scope of the categories of individual income tax provided in Article 2 of the Tax Law:

1. "Income from wages and salaries" refers to income from wages, salaries, awards, year-end bonuses, bonus from labor service, _allowances_ and subsidies and other income related to appointments or employment,"

Thus, default nature of _all _allowances is that tax will be levied on them.

The regulations also clarify which persons are eligible for possible tax-free employment benefits:

"Article 27 The applicable scope of additional tax reductions for expenses as provided in paragraph three of Article 6 of the Tax Law refers to:
1. Foreign nationals working in enterprise with foreign investments and foreign enterprises in China,
2. Foreign experts employed by enterprises, undertakings, social organizations and government institutions in China,
3. Individuals with residence in China but having jobs or being employed drawing wages or salaries outside China,
4. Other individuals defined by the Ministry of Finance."

Further clarifications to these regulations are published in form of circulars, one of which is _Circular on Some Policy Questions Concerning Individual Income Tax_ (www.chinatax.gov.cn/2013/n2925/n2956/c310099/content.html, although my quote below is from another source with slightly different translation).

It states:

"The incomes listed below are exempt from individual income tax for the time being:

(1) Housing subsidies, food allowances, moving fees and laundry fees gained by individual [u]foreigners[/u] in the non-cash form or in the form of being reimbursed for what they spend.

(2) Traveling allowances at home and abroad gained by individual foreigners in accordance with rational standards.

(3) The visiting relatives expense, language training expense and children education expense gained by individual foreigners, that part considered to be reasonable through examination and approval by local tax authorities.
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Personally I fall in this category:

" Individuals with residence in China but having jobs or being employed drawing wages or salaries outside China"

Which makes me eligible to these tax-free allowances. Since I have no local employer, I must file (and study) everything myself - which I by the way do annually with the same process that everyone earning over 120 000 must do even if their taxes would get filed monthly by employer.

Still, employers (local or abroad) cannot pay lump sump allowances without it being considered fully taxable - everything must be paid against fapiaos or other documents based on real expenses.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Tax-free allowance for visiting relatives expenses

Tigertiger: As it says _visiting_ relatives, I am quire sure that it means the "left behind" family which did NOT move to China with you, and their subsequent visits to come see you in Chiina on temporary basis.

Relocation costs (for the entire household), as well as some other expenses are covered under different items in the policy.

I only quoted item number 3 here, and am only interested in the definition for "visiting relatives expense".

Geezer: These are items which can be paid by employer to the employee, and employee can deduct these expenses from taxable income, IF the specific items are mentioned in work contract and there are relevant fapiaos.

And if you are eligible for these tax-free allowances to begin with, which depends on a few factors (which are clear to me).

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Tax-free allowance for visiting relatives expenses

China's regulations about tax exempt allowances for eligible foreigners include this:

"(3) The visiting relatives expense, language training expense and children education expense gained by individual foreigners, that part considered to be reasonable through examination and approval by local tax authorities."

Would anyone have experience about the "visiting relatives expense" in Kunming, as these items are subject to approval by local tax authorities rather than on national level.

Firstly, are there some limitations to what constitutes "relatives" - only spouse, or also parents, siblings, grand children, nieces and nephews...?

Secondly, is this limited to local expenses such as food and accommodation, or does it also include flights/other transports from/to home country and/or within China?

Any first-hand knowledge or even hearsay would be welcome.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > How much cash can you take out of the country?

www.china.org.cn/english/LivinginChina/204171.htm

"According to the Administrative Rules of the People's Republic of China on Cross-Border Transportation of National Currency issued by China's central bank in December 2004, travelers are allowed to take up to US$5,000 equivalent of foreign currency and 20,000 yuan of local currency (US$1=7.7 yuan) into or out of the country.

There is no need to declare this to customs if the currency you carry is less than the limit. "

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@Geogramatt: "Why the rush? Let this generation pass peacefully. The young all want to leave anyway."

I would think that it makes China look bad (and that's what the leadership cares, despite what their actions sometimes come through as), if there are so many elder people left behind in undeveloped rural homes.

Combine this with left behind children, who often are seen sharing those poor living conditions with their grandparents (if even that).. If the elderly are migrated to better housing closer to even minimal services, then so would their grandchildren - and that's for the future, right now.

As of late, Chinese pro-party commentators have repeatedly mentioned that Deng never said that it is glorious to be rich for everyone - they argue that Deng always meant for select few to become rich first, and rest later.

If much of China growth, or at least opening the potential to it, can be attributed to reforms that Deng initiated, then just as much of the so-called economic injustice (or relative poverty) can be attributed to those same political decisions - not so much people unintentionally falling off the wagon of development and economic prosperity, as is case in some western countries.

Secondly, the culture of shared poverty being the glorious thing (that the previous generations were forced to), would not have disappeared over night.

I have witnessed the internal conflict in some elderly rural residents in Yunnan, torn between being angry for not getting to enjoy the fruits of China's growth on one hand, and not accepting the steps that would be needed to pick the fruits on the other hand.

I was at a rural funeral in Yunnan last autumn, and throughout the event there was a bookkeeper registering and writing down all donations.'

Back then I understood that the family had purchased the feast for a certain price, and this communal bookkeeper was subtracting the payment for that from all those donations.

But in light of this article, I wouldn't be surprised if he served some administrative role as well.

Chinese state does have some economic muscle, and tradition of state-owned enterprising. I think that the state should jump in here.

They could confistace this kind of non-monetary resources (like bricks, or frozen french fries), pay market price to the employees, and then sell the goods back to the market (or donate to charity) through it's own channels.

But I guess there is more bucks in cigarattes and oil.

@alienew: "drive investors to go to places where they can get away"

Well, technically it would drive them away to places where they can get away with unpaid wages in some other ways than being beaten to death.

Preferably the alternative would be a more civilized way to lose face than doing so concretically.

The process somewhere else would be that after 1-2 months salary is unpaid, the employees quit and contact union, which then more or less peacefully negotiates the best possible solution between the employer and the employee.

The workers can then choose better representatives, if the union-led negotiations still produce nothing but bricks as compensation for unpaid wages.

The problem in China is that if you quit, there are 10 other guys waiting to take your position regardless of how you were dealt with.

But in that scale, there is usually just 1 guy offering those positions, and if he or she is dealt with this way, there may not be another guy taking his place.

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