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Forums > Food & Drink > The Camel Bar

Well now, seems the Camel is running their regular Tuesday ad for jam night, but I rather suspect that's just because somebody forgot to cancel it.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > VPN:s still working?

Thanks for the warning, Peter, but I'm pretty sure we will be able to handle this tremendous catastrophe. Hasn't happened yet, as I'm presently using my VPN. But yeah, limiting communications is a negative, of course, though I just might be able to hobble along, traumatized, without facebook. I seriously doubt the party-state is likely to cut off my communications with my bank, or disallow making flight reservations.

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Forums > Food & Drink > The Camel Bar

Lotta local expat and local musical history associated with this bar, and with Deng Ling, the entrepreneurial owner, over the past 20 years. I think I can speak for many in wishing her well.

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Don't quite understand - do you want the state to make/keep some, or all, of these drugs illegal? If so, note how legalization of alcohol in the US, after 10 years of prohibition, drove gangsters out of the illegal booze industry. Seems to me legalization of pot in some US states is likely to do the same with the illegal marijuana industry. What would happen to the gangsters' profits in dealing other (now illegal) drugs if they were made legal?
I'm not advocating anything concerning the drugs in the article, just asking your opinion.

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Plus cigarette smoking is a lot more likely to give you lung cancer than marijuana smoking does - marijuana smoking can give you bronchial irritations, tho, if you over do it.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.