@Napolean, who brought up the financial reward and American slant besides you? Unless you read somewhere else they were demanding compensation?
Gonna agree, definitely not flight crews fault, but any passenger who chose to unbuckle after flight crew did final walk and then ordered seated by pilot.
I've seen an improvement in Chinese passengers not unbuckling early, but no where near 100%.
I'm usually the first to bash China Eastern airlines when operations go awry, though when i read the nov 29th accident report it's clearly the fault of passengers..
information I got from people who intercepted the conversation between the tower and the cockpit was very interesting. the pilot managed to keep the plane on the runway for no reason contrary to tower instruction, causing the following plane to go around then it moved again and skip...... heavy rain but visibility was ok. ahhahahahahh
China Eastern made news again, :-)
Sounds more like a problem with Airbus 300's engine, which is a ground crew issue. Just more bad luck for China Eastern though.
@voltaire, I don't agree with getting rid of humans, machines are built by humans and can also have a lot of problems.
I'd rather have a machine that can be overruled by a human where necessary than one operating by itself.
For example: www.abc.net.au/[...]
perhaps the problem is related to conflict between programs designed/written by humans and interfaces between systems tested by humans. i am guess ing that these flying systems are quiet old now. human testers dont have time to go through more than foreseeable problems, and a little lattitude for imagination. with a.i. the amount of systems leaning grows almost exponentially.
if all cars were automated, there would still be road accidents caused by system failure, and the media will have a field day if there is a big pile up, but conveniently forget the 1000s of lives saved. machines get things wrong too, but are more reliable (scientific sense of the word) than humans.
Right now for large commercial passenger liners, the problem is mostly pilot laziness. Thanks to sophisticated autopilots, most senior captains just get loaded or sleep the whole flight after hitting the town all night before. Complacency from depending on the autopilot has dulled their skills and response assessment and times during an emergency. There are exceptions like Scully, but for everyone of those captains, seems like their are five of the lazy or drunk ones now.
@Alex: Eastern seems to have problems, but you know you're exaggerating, right?
Actually Chinese pilots are the least likely offenders at this point. Mostly South Am and European pilots are seen at airport bars drinking heavily before a flight. Air France flight crew crashed a fully loaded airbus into the ocean, cause cap was passed out and other copilots couldn't save the plane when autopilot failed during a storm. Just so you don't assume again without reading the thread, this and my last post weren't specifically targeted to China Eastern, since the prior posts discussed technology and planes.
