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Forums > Living in Kunming > Kunming Waterfalls, Just in TIme for Drought

Yes, it is up and running, I saw it the other day. To get to it bike (or drive but it gets heinously muddy) up beside the Pan long on the West of the river north of the Carnival shopping mall. You can now continue further than you could a few months ago as they have built the park on the riverside and upgraded the road. There is a hell of a lot of construction going on building houses down that road, but it's still Ok for riding. You get to a part where the road turns to gravel/mud and swings right towards the river. Stop near the river and look North to see the waterfalls.

It should be a beautiful place to live in the future, new apartments, nice riverside parks with a nice (albeit man made in Chinese sterile style) waterfall view. Of course at the moment the surrounding area is a construction site.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Man with a Van

How much stuff is it? We moved a whole room setup (wardrobe/drawers/table/bed/bicycles plus about 20 boxes) using 3 guys that come in a fairly large truck. You pack up everything (though they unscrewed the bed for us), they load it into the truck and unload at your new place. Pretty good guys and STRONG. We were done in 2 hours. Yes, 2 HOURS!

They were locals though, so hopefully your Chinese is good! Was 250 kuai, there number is 67158896 - 激发光家 ji2 fa1 ban1 jia1 (company name). We bargained a bit to get the price down from 250 but gave them 250 in the end because they did such a good job and so fast! They charge more for stairs etc too though (we went from elevator apartment to 1st level).

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Japanese Encephalitis

Sarah, it is extremely paranoid and silly to not go to Yuan Yang rice terraces because you may on the off chance catch Japanese Encephalitis. You probably are 50 times as likely to be killed by a car crossing the road there than be infected. From what I have been told, something like 2% of mosquitoes carry the disease, and the infection rate is 0.2%. Meaning your chance of catching it is ridiculously low. I have cycled all over Yunnan and SE Asia staying in tents and cooking outside at night etc, never taken malaria or Japanese Encephalitis vaccine and never had a problem. Just like almost everyone else I have met doing something similar. As always prevention is best, cover up during at risk times and don't sleep outside! Wait until you see the drive up to Yuan Yang, then you will be scared! But don't live life wrapped in cotton wool, you won't leave your own house!

To suggest missing out on such an amazing place because you just might contract a disease which barely any local has heard of is ridiculous. It's like not going to Africa for fear of Ebola.

I have a very large suspicion drug companies advise doctors to push the medicine and tell patients that they are really likely to catch these infectious diseases in order to sell their excessively marked up and questionable quality vaccines. Just don't worry.

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But to the story - I had no idea that different provinces could implement laws differently! There should be no way for Yunnan to be more lenient than other provinces, that is a severe failure of the Chinese justice system (or the Chinese guanxi based punishment system, whichever you prefer!).

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I have taken drugs before, LSD when I was younger. My friends did also. That was over 15 years ago now and all of us are now fully capable and contributing members of society today. Not one of us had our relationships break down or adverse affects of our drug taking, which occurred 1-3 times for all of us before we all made a pact not to ever do it again after a bad experience.

So we should all be executed HFCAMPO? Or is there a statute of limitations for your new law? Or do you decide how it is implemented? What if you found out your son/daughter was peer pressured into taking a drug. Instant execution? You are OK with that?

Your broad sweeping assumptions "Casual drug users do affect others you just don't know about it." should be the downfall of your argument.

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Alien, there is a clear definition of a troll, look it up. Because others use it here when they should not, is not my problem.

HFCAMPO posted that all drug users should be put to death and he has just said that the statement is not sarcastic. If you do not believe that fits into a category of being "deliberately inflammatory to provoke reaction", I aren't sure what is. He has stated a zero tolerance, capital punishment extremist viewpoint. He then insulted me for telling a simple anecdote, in another attempt to provoke a reaction.

This would be fine if he framed his statements as a matter of opinion. But he has done it with a tone which brooks no argument so that it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. You can tell this because he simply insults anyone who disagrees with him, even in the slightest. He then stated that he is an expert on the matter as he willingly joined an army and worked in the area. And this army was controlled by a government which exhorts the exact opposite of the values he purports to uphold. Either he holds two different viewpoints simultaneously or holds one and deliberately posts the other to provoke a response. I am fairly certain it is the latter.

Is it your genuine opinion HFCAMPO that all drug users should be put to death? My anecdote still holds, just replace "smoking a joint" with "popping a tab of acid". Do you believe all young people who are peer pressured into taking LSD, for instance, should be put to death?

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A troll HFCAMPO is someone who posts something on a thread in order to deliberately cause a reaction. Clearly your first 2 posts were exactly that, you somewhat clarified your position in the third post, but not at all clearly, it appears you were being sarcastic?

You have started an inflammatory discussion, appeared to have changed your mind, insulted me for simply adding an anecdote after reading your first posts...

And you still have the temerity to call others trolls?

It appears you get a buzz out of being a troll yourself then pretending you are not. The only one who is laughing is yourself, in your own head, the rest of us are shaking our head in wonderment. I guess the joke is on me for being your troll bait.

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So fast, so convenient. One star off for opening before the train station stop is connected!

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Wow, just wow. Possibly the best Chinese food I have had in Kunming. And in one of the nicest, traditional courtyard style restaurant I have been in. A woman dressed in traditional qi pao playing a gu zheng just adds to it.

We had okra, mushroom soup, dried beef and chou dofu. All top notch with the bill coming in at just over 250 kuai. But we could have fed 3 people for that so not too bad at about 80-90 kuai each. Not the cheapest but for the quality, it's damn good.

If you have people visiting and want to take them to a traditional Chinese style restaurant with Yunnan style food, or want a romantic night out with a gal, you can't go wrong here. Close to Green Lake (down a little alley) for a romantic walk... Just perfect.

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Pretty good place for getting all your documents translated and/or notarised. Note that there are a number of notaries in the building which you can find by going up the stairs (the elevators are impossible). But you have to find the stairs to do so... go in the door, head over to the right, go up the big wide stairs which head up a floor, turn right then right again into the elevator area and right again into the stairwells. Whew!

One point off for the elevators never being available and having to hike 7-9 flights of stairs (not good if you have to go 3-4 times a day like I often did!)

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This does not stop at the Jinanya hotel at Da Shang Hui as the flyers state (and is on the images tab here). They need to have another stop in the same area or else they are missing out on covering a big chunk of the city.

You can take another bus, the 919C, I believe, if you are nearby Da Shang Hui, which leaves from the bus station on HeHong Lu, nearby the Qianxing road intersection. This bus goes every hour and is white, found at the western end of the station. It is operated by a different company and takes about 1 hour 10 minutes to get to the airport due to a large number of stops especially near the airport.

Great bus though if you can catch it!

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Friendly people, even got to the talk to the vice consulate, who told me she had done a stint in Malaysia's Siberian Consulate!

English is spoken by some of the Chinese girls working at the desk who are pleasant to deal with. I assume they do Visa's as well but I wasn't here for a visa, this time!