Forums > Travel Yunnan > Myanmar border crossing - tourist visa renewal Hi Patrick, for some reason, the Muse crossing has never had 1 day (or multiple day) visa options, unlike crossings with Thailand and one crossing with India (Tamu). In fact just getting across to Muse has been fraught with difficulty.
However, while Myanmar immigration claims to offer 7 day 6 night passes to Chinese nationals valid only for the Muse economic zone, in reality this is meaningless because Chinese officials won't allow Chinese nationals to leave Jiegao bound for Ruili without a visa in their passports. In the opposite direction, short stay border passes valid for Burmese nationals to visit Jiegao only are offered by the Chinese government - this explains why one routinely sees only Burmese nationals crossing this border in either direction.
I was in Muse in April, having traveled up from Mandalay. The consensus right now is that while it may be possible to cross into Myanmar at this crossing, a Myanmar visa obtained in advance is a must. Previously even a permit was required just for the border crossing, which was still in effect as of April but I heard a rumor that as of July 1st the requirement may have been lifted, but I wouldn't be surprised if this has since been delayed (note a permit is no longer required to travel the road south of Muse - this requirement has been lifted since February hence I didn't have a permit when I traveled that road).
I therefore recommend traveling to Laos or Vietnam for your visa runs instead, for the time being.
BTW what's your nationality? Apart from ASEAN nationals (except Myanmar), Swiss, Russian, Luxembourg, Sth Korean and Japanese citizens do not require a visa to visit Laos for short periods.
For Vietnam, Russian, Sth Korean, Japanese and Scandinavian citizens do not require a visa for short visits.
However, I hear that it's possible to do a turnaround at the Chinese-Lao border without getting a Lao visa (if required) and stamp - try it and the worst that can happen is that the Chinese authorities will force you to head down to the Lao side to get a visa and entry/exit stamps.
Forums > Living in Kunming > Why have airline tickets skyrocketed?? @chris8080 there is definately no Kazakhstan visa office or consulate in Kunming. However, there is one in Urumqi and Beijing. If you direct your enquiries there, they might be able to issue a visa for you applying by mail. Alternatively, a local travel agent in Kunming may be able to apply on your behalf but as I have never heard of anyone going to Kazakhstan (indeed, few people even know where Kazakhstan is!) I can't be sure. Hong Kong might also have a visa office but not sure about that.
Forums > Travel Yunnan > Can Chinese citizens enter Boten, Laos without a visa? @tigertiger, Now the Thai consulate in Kunming definitely processes visas for foreign nationals as I got one there in 2011.
Actually, Lao citizens CAN'T apply for a voa at Boten. Apparently voa are only available under specific circumstances, or as the official put it to us, they are available for some foreign citizens under normal circumstances, but the Lao officials may be reluctant to let anyone, Lao or foreigner pass without a visa for China except with special paperwork. Having said that, I didn't actually try to get a voa there as I had no need for one on that trip so I really don't know for sure...
Forums > Travel Yunnan > travelling form Yunnan to Myanmar @Danmairen, btw I can confirm that right now Chinese nationals are not even allowed into Mu-se with a border pass, only a visa (Chinese government policy, not Myanmar policy). Locals from Ruili may be an exception to this as I have seen many 云N registered cars here. This may change after July 1st when it is expected that all Chinese nationals may be able to freely enter Mu-se with just a border pass.
For foreigners, it seems that overland crossings may be possible without a permit coming from China, but in the other direction a permit is still required to exit Myanmar but this requirement may soon be abolished. This is the way I understand things to be right now according to the officials I spoke to.
Forums > Travel Yunnan > travelling form Yunnan to Myanmar Probably not yet - the crossing at Tamu/Moreh (India) seems like it might open soon, but unless you have special permission I'd say your best bet for overland exit (after entering from China) is crossing into Thailand at Myawaddy/Mae Sot, which has either just been allowed or is about to start. For crossings into India, give it another year or two and by then it will probably be allowed.
After 11 years, Yunnan's railroad from hell sees the light
发布者Geogramatt, eventually it may cross into Myanmar. However, given how it will only be finished as far as Ruili in 2022, there's still many years before it ever makes it into Myanmar. Hopefully that will be enough time for Myanmar to end it's wars in the northern part of the country but that's wishful thinking at this point. After all, the Kachin Independence Army or KIA broke a 17-year ceasefire back around 2011 and fighting has actually increased in the meantime.
Myanmar-Thailand-Laos-China: 4 countries, 4 days, 400 yuan
发布者Myanmar didn't only open up for tourism in 2011. It has been open for years just that not many westerners went prior to 2011, even though there was little stopping them. The only thing you couldn't do prior to 2013 was travel overland unless you had a permit. I first went to Myanmar on a day trip to Tachilek in 2001 and flew into Yangon in 2004 and 2005. It was just as easy to get a visa back then as it is today, except that there were more restricted areas than there are now. Also, getting to Mu-se on the Chinese border seems to be OK. I went there in February. The adjacent areas where the Kokang conflict erupted are of course out of bounds. Chinese citizens generally aren't allowed to travel across to the Burmese side overland either, except to Mu-se for up to 7 days but that isn't always allowed either. Burmese who travel to China illegally risk arrest and those that travel overland from Mu-se can only travel to Ruili. To enter China properly and travel wherever they want, they either need a permit or must fly in, just like other foreigners.
Yuxi-Mengzi: China's newest railway
发布者To further add to Tom69's comments, I have recently heard that the go-ahead has been given for a railway from Kunming to near the Lao border, but as for continuing into Laos and beyond to Thailand, this is uncertain at the moment. In any case, overly optimistic Chinese journalism should be dismissed as reliable news sources as they have many times mentioned things that have yet to materialize.
Anyway, to get back on track a little bit can anyone tell me if there are now more services out of Mengzi (and in the reverse direction) than the one lone train? If coming from Vietnam it would be impossible to make the 9.03am train, since a bus journey would take 2 hours and then you would need to consider that the border only opens at 8am Chinese time I think, so only by staying in Hekou itself could you make it to Mengzi (possibly) if you departed Hekou around 6am by the time the train departs.
Yunnan reopens 13 international border crossings
发布者@Peter99, as you say, it's up to the individual countries concerned, not China, to allow entry to Myanmar/Vietnam overland from China. If a bomb attack occurs in Myanmar near the Chinese border (where I've been to just like you have been), that's something that should concern China but isn't enough to prevent the Chinese authorities from allowing foreigners to cross as foreign citizens are not of concern to China when they exit Chinese territory. Having said that I keep reading that the official opening of the Ruili-Muse crossing to passport and visa holders of all nationalities is scheduled to proceed as planned this year, but an exact date is not yet known. 4 border crossings with Thailand opened last August and I have travelled overland into the interior of Myanmar to/from Thailand 3 times since that time.
As others have said, a number of these crossings have always been open so I don't know what the authorities mean about being recently "re-opened". The Lao Cai-Hekou crossing is open to all who have valid documents to cross between China and Vietnam there (some nationalities don't need a visa to enter Vietnam and as such can just cross through without a visa). Only cars generally can't cross the border here, one must be a pedestrian to cross and there are no cross border bus services either.
Photos of flash flooding in Yunnan's capital
发布者@LaoQingwa and laoshi19, I just arrived back in Kunming today. Today the weather was partly cloudy with plenty of sunshine and comfortably warm temperatures. I was told the past 2 days have been similar. It seems that the weather forecast is not very accurate - my hunch is on partly cloudy skies, with some possibility of overcast skies and light rain being more likely over the next few days but probably nothing like Kunming experienced last week (well, at least, hopefully not).
There is no evidence left of the flooding which affected Kunming mainly last Friday. I too was worried as evidenced by my earlier post, but it seems that even the most low lying areas around Beijing Lu, which were most flooded and the rest of downtown are back to normal - I drove through there from the airport today and everything is business as usual.