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@Dazzer: True, though plenty of people here are no longer living with mom & pop. Anyway, my point was just that this shouldn't be exaggerated, and anyway there are many, many people who help to support mom & pop.

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@Serrure: whereas Chinese food in KM does resemble the real stuff, in great variety. I'm sure most Kunmingers would agree that not all restaurants are either really good or really bad, and that some are indeed one or the other. Prices vary too, and one can eat well cheap. All sort of like...everywhere.

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@Tony, aren't there more interesting things to talk about than mmkunming? The guy has things to say that are worth considering, I doubt if he's right about everything, so what? Some of you guys are more into yourselves and each other than you are into anything else. Don't go being 'incensed' alla time, hardly worth it.

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True about reserved hospitals for ruling classes, tho I'm not sure what percentage of the people we're talking about. The barefoot doctors were certainly not highly qualified, but this was an extremely important beginning for health care in the countryside, where there'd been virtually nothing before. China simply did not have enough highly trained doctors, and they obviously could not have been produced. overnight. The barefoot doctors were a good idea at the time.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.