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Forums > Living in Kunming > Yunda ready to move

I think students need to be liberated as well as managed - a little more idealism among students might help counteract the rather cynical pragmatism of much of society.

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Littering, yes. I see more people using the bins than once did. In China I don't think it's ab act if disrespect or rebellion, but the continuation of a cultural item that's been around for a long time and is now slowing being practiced less than before. As for China being a developing nation whose culture hasn't 'caught up' - I don't know what it might mean for anti-littering behavior to 'catch up' to industrialization, but the cultural behavior that hasn't caught up is the one that uses industrial development production for things like war.

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Flengs and Peter are both right, according to what I have read.
Note that history is often simplified for tourism purposes - note the idea that there was a single Great Wall, that it is the only manmade structure visible from the moon, that place X or Y has been 'part of China' since the Han Dynasty, or since the Ming, or whatever, etc., when in truth different dynasties had different frontiers, different kinds of relations with peoples near the frontiers, and that what is today's China was often divided politically. Histories of PRC border provinces such as Yunnan exhibit these various situations most clearly and give one a deeper understanding of what modern nation-state claims are and are not worth.

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Some dishes with potatoes here aren't bad, but overall I agree with Haali - Westerners have generally done better with potatoes so far. The McDonaldization of potato culture, however, has not helped, and it would be nice to think that the Chinese could avoid it, but that doesn't seem to be what is happening.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.