If 'people' means 'western foreigners', try the places listed on the gokunming calendar. The DT Bar courtyard on Sundays from 4-5 o'clock on is indeed a good one - laid back, not all noise, but with a little live music on & off - people of various ages & origins, quite a few with kids running around not getting in anybody's way.
Hong Kong train trip: has been 25 hours to Guangzhou for many years, then a quick comfortable fast train to Shenzhen (about 90 minutes), then you just go through immigration about 50 meters from the Shenzhen train station & get on Hong Kong's commuter RR, about 35 minutes to Tsim Sha Tsui in Kowloon. However, recently I think they have started a service direct from Kowloon to Shenzhen, which should cut the overall time a little.
Hollywood is not always bad, just usually.
Cheapest is to go to HK by relatively non-polluting train.
It's also a shame nobody can stick to the subject of the conversation.
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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.
As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.
Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.
Too bourgeois.
Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.
Ain't no flies on Salvador's.
Chinese student apologizes after Maryland graduation speech sparks firestorm
发布者Nationalism, when looked at carefully, is rarely sensible.
Yunnan's capital scrambles as 'Civilized Kunming' audit looms
发布者@Kongming: Yeah, but whether it's governmental (or corporate capitalist) complexity or a moral category, if or when Walmart comes to represent 'civilization' anywhere, we're in deep doo-doo.
Yunnan's capital scrambles as 'Civilized Kunming' audit looms
发布者I rather think it will have a positive effect, especially on the traffic, but it may take awhile.
Kunming police taking steps to tame traffic chaos
发布者@hanshan: Pretty much true, so far. But you get used to it.
Once controversial oil refinery to open in Yunnan this month
发布者Oh. Yeah. Anyway, it gets here with more sense than via Shanghai.