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Forums > Food & Drink > Thanksgiving Dinners out

In many places, from a primarily religious holiday to a primarily family&friends one. Over 1000 years ago it changed from a mostly religious marking of the Winter solstice to a (religious) Christian holiday. But then it, and other things, has different meaning for different people (for kids it may just mean getting more stuff, for many it may mean a good excuse to party, etc.)

Thanksgiving quite obviously means different things to different people (Americans, non-Americans, Native Americans, food freaks, family freaks, restaurant owners, patriots, Christians, patriot/Christian & Christian/patriot Americans who can't separate the 2 in their heads, etc.). For most people in the US I think it's probably an American-nationalist thing, among others, & is probably that for non-Americans who pay attention to it as well, though one without too much flag-waving - still, it's sort of used to sacralize the nation.

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Forums > Food & Drink > Thanksgiving Dinners out

Gompo's right - modern human use of animals as merely objectivized matter is pretty disgusting. Interesting that this is counteracted by people's sentimentality and generally good relations with their pets. Makes one appreciate people who merely hunt for food, or even traditional animal-raising farmers.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Good (English-speaking) hospitals in Kunming?

@I would advise against the Skin disease hospital on Renminxilu - I couldn't get a clear diagnosis out of them and spent some money on meds that worked and some on meds that didn't seem to do much of anything. They use a combination of Trad. Chinese Med. & modern scientific med, which might have something to say for it but in my instance I never felt they were really clear about what they were doing. I'm sure they could do a simple mole surgery though.

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Note practical functional adaptation to forest regrowth and re-use of land for agriculture practiced by slash-&-burn (swidden) mountain groups before their territories were restricted, which required re-use of same land in much shorter periods - and they knew, through their cultural history, that this wouldn't work, and said so - but of course the explosion of the human population made continuation of these traditional long-period of regrowth practices impossible. Now they are blamed for being ignorant and ruining mountain slopes (in China, Thailand, many places).
Fact is, there are simply too many people.

The Curmudgeon says: Maybe the Western dam experts criticisms of just about every dam in Asia are right.
In vis-a-vis arguments concerning fossil-based, nuclear and hydroelectric sources of energy, perhaps the shining truth behind them all is simply that this particular species of animal consumes too much damn energy for the good of the planet, including that of our particular species. Perhaps solar, tidal, etc. development will prove me wrong. In the meantime, walk, get a bicycle or ride the bus. Healthier and less socially divisive too.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.