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Forums > Living in Kunming > Which Museums..

The Provincial Museum, the City Museum (for the Flying Tigers/Hump Airlift exhibit, and also for the great Dali Kingdom stone there), and the RR museum. Also the ethnic museum across from that Minorities Village tourist circus thing.

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@Magnifico: I'd say the 4 reasons that you have given as causing internet forum flaws are precisely those things that should be considered virtues - if and when they don't appear as virtues, it's because contributors are more interested in their egos than in intelligent discussion. So the issue becomes: what is it in the global culture, or anyway in the global internet culture, that produces so many fragile egos?

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Disposal and slurping are both Chinese culture - I think poor disposal is something to be corrected, as it causes collective problems; slurping does not, within China, except for many of the relatively few foreigners; internationally it may be a pain to see it in many foreign countries, but you can't learn everything about every foreign culture all at once - I've been in China awhile and, hopefully, am still learning. Learning about foreign customs is something that people might be taught, however. In case anybody's interested, I generally don't slurp, and my non-slurping doesn't seem to offend anyone here.

@Alex: you know what Chinese people want? Isn't 'what Chinese people want' a cultural question? If they all wanted to be monitored, would that settle the issue for you?
Culture card.

@Alex: I didn't intend to pull any culture cards and don't think I did - but if you want to claim that Chinese people want to be monitored etc. then I think you're pulling a culture card (i.e., this is what Chinese people want and we shouldn't interfere).
I'm not attacking you & don't want to go on about this, but I think that's, in effect, what you have done in your last post.

@Alex: The Chinese government proposes and enjoys running a police state (well, perhaps not quite a police state). What does this have to do with desires of Chinese people to be monitored alla time, or desires not to be monitored, either within China or abroad?

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.