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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Map showing un-destroyed bits of Shangri La?

Is there a map online anywhere which shows the destroyed area of Zhongdian? A list of businesses which are still going concerns? I imagine that, for example, Sean's No. 2 Cafe is defunct, but what about the Raven? Or Noah Cafe and Inn? and so on.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Bus to Dali - Update?

No. 8 bus goes from the train station to Dali Old Town, the West Gate. The main Xia Guan bus station is a few blocks from the train station, perhaps a long walk. A 3-wheeler will take you there if you don't care to walk. Taxi from Xia Guan to Old Dali is pretty expensive.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > global warming

Lots of earlier societies have harmed or destroyed themselves by screwing up their environments. I first learned of this long ago, studying archaeology (Robert McC. Adams, _The Land Behind Baghdad_), but it's well-known. We are not a bit smarter than the classic Maya or the Mesopotamians of Sasanian dynasty. We just have more powerful technology and can harm ourselves more thoroughly, all the while denying the obvious.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Does anyone have any experience with Kunming Siya?

Does anyone have any experience with Kunming Siya Consultative Services Co., which is offering TESOL classes in Kunming? Apparently they are connected with ACT Chiang Mai and Cornerstone University in Michigan. They have been advertising in Kunming Swap and perhaps other places.

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"what is your definition of a fundamentalist Christian nutjob?"

Someone like Dobson.

I'm old enough to remember when Southern Baptists included White supremacy as a *BIG* part of their Gospel. I remember lynching, too. It was curiously popular in those regions were Southern Baptists were very common. The usual offence: being Black and too successful.

BBC World Service recently did a two part documentary on Christianity in China. Apparently some of the national level leaders have been suckered into believing that there's some kind of connection between Protestantism and development/wealth/power. The loathsome Health&Wealth Gospel is just a step away!

Lots of educated Chinese people are quite blind to the flaws and problems of US life.

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I've stayed here many times over the years and been very satisfied. Central location, comfortable rooms, reasonable prices. Some might mind the noise from the Bad Monkey Bar across the street, but I've always been able to sleep. The staff is very helpful with bus tickets, excursion tickets and the like.

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Does anyone know if this is still a going concern? Or destroyed by the fire?

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One of my favorite places in Jing Hong! It's my landmark, the center of the hotel, restaurant, bike, etc., area. I discovered dark Beer Lao there!