Right, no bass player, so you need to teach a local Chinese musician how to play your music. That solves the bass player problem. Are you willing to do it? The number of Chinese and non-Chinese musicians in Kunming is absolutely huge, the problem is no one is willing to work to make a healthy music. environment But they sure as hell are willing to work to make 1000RMB a pop at a monkey gig. Aint that right? There are several venues with drum kits: Mask, Wenlin, Nashville, Camel, Bridge. If there is no drumkit, then we bring in an E-Drum. Grounding issues can be solved by changing wiring. For god's sake, the air we breathe everyday and food we eat is already polluted, may as well add in the risk of getting electrocuted. If you don't like how an open-mic is run, well that's cool, but you can certainly start one up at another venue. That is actually the ultimate goal, get as many jams and open-mics going as possible. Give the commercial gig scene to the Chinese musicians, abandon it, it is of no use to us.

anyone else?

Ok, Dan, now we know where you stand on the subject

The words, actions and intentions of the foreign musicians and those who support them who have posted here, are already now all clearly documented in full detail on Gokunming, stored on computer and in full view of all, and open to any Chinese security official who has the need to investigate them. Are we truly willing to forsake the privilege the Chinese government imparts on us to reside in China, in exchange for large incomes from illegal entertainment performances? In our conscience, is it truly worth it? I don't need a translator, I'll go to the Security Bureau myself and explain to them in extremely clear Mandarin what exactly has been happening inside the Laowai music circle for the past 10 years. I've known Officer Zhao for years and he's always willing to throw a wrench into a wheel for the sake of his country.

Rocket, the last thing I want is anyone's respect. Expecting respect is a waste of time and this world will respect no one who insists on the clearly ILLEGAL manipulation of Chinese commercial entertainment gigs for self-profit. It doesn't matter if you are Wes Montgomery on guitar, Louie Armstrong on trumpet, Jaco Pastorius on bass and Buddy Rich on drums, it is unethical, illegal and just flat-out wrong. Now let's start a forum on this subject and see who's willing to participate?

If a musician wants to live in Kunming,or any city for that matter and play their music, well cool, get your material together, put the leather to the pavement and take the music to the bars or to the street, get your fair reimbursement for your hard work and get fans who love your music Now that is what a real musician does, there is no other way to accomplish it.

In this situation, the object that needs the most respect is Kunming. When will foreigners without a legal entertainment work-permit stop the illegal collection of money from commercial entertainment performances? Will it take a report to the local newspaper or security bureau to stop this illegal activity. Foreign musicians who insist on performing long-term illegal enterainment are no different than those who insist on polluting the environment from uncontrolled factories. You think I'm joking? I am not. All it takes is one visit to the security bureau and the party is over.

When will we begin to respect Kunming?