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Well, I suggest he wrap his head in aluminum foil to solve part of his problem. The rest is because his wife beats the crap out of him a little more than necessary.

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Any idea why, when I try to download the youtube version clearly labeled with English subtitles and plays English subtitles correctly in my browser, has French subtitles when downloaded? I am stumped.

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@Alien: In my comments on China's choice, a decision to accept pollution, I used the word "capital" but to make it understandable for you I should have used "money" to make it easier for you to understand. In my mind, "capital" is a finite resource, measured in money terms, which is limited and subject to allocation. "Money" is something printed, or otherwise created, by government fiat, and while seeming limitless can be easily debased.

Your infantile references to Capitalism are unthinking, display ignorance, and are jingoistic at best. Thinkers, or Non-Thinkers, of your ilk succumb to ideology to without regard to context. Stringing $2 words together in unintelligent syntax may impress yourself but you don't add much to the discourse. No. Disregard that. You have every right to babble in incomplete sentences jingoistic or not.

Pollution is an economic issue. This is my hypothesis based on a lot of reading and observations in the US and China. I used to say ignorance was an excuse but have decided that folks with enough money to pollute just are not ignorant enough to pollute without calculating the current economic benefits of doing so.

No matter the economic system or ideology pollution control, prevention or abatement, simply increases the current cost of production to clean up waste water and decontaminate solid waste. Today's costs, objectively measured and known, reduce the rewards to today's producers to the hypothetical benefit of future society.

A society or governing system has, at any given moment, a finite amount of capital. This society or governing system must allocate the use of its capital in ways to the benefit of the society or governing system. The method of allocation is core to the society or governing system and depends on the ideological values employed.

If a society or governing system decides a single yardstick is to be used measure success, then a sort of tunnel vision takes hold. If this yardstick rewards current, short term, goals the results will be achieved with little concern for other factors, economic or social, not measured by the yardstick. The emphasis on a single measurement has advantages particularly for command economies. It provides an easily understood focus for economic gain and if the planners are clever, many other economic components will also benefit.

If a society or governing system uses propaganda to promote and celebrate its yardstick then uses coercion to stifle persons with other concern by detaining and jailing them and otherwise eliminate dissent, the yardstick is safe.

If a society or governing system perceives a competing society or governing system in terms of the same yardstick and tends to focus on that yardstick to the detriment of other metrics, distortions begin to appear. If a society or governing system observes the competing society or governing system has more, is doing better, it may try to emulate some parts of the perceived successful competitor. Concurrently, it may express its envy by assuming a victim's posture.

If a society or governing system adopts an ideology, and resolutely proclaims ideological superiority, and supports the ideology with propaganda, "man made" statistics, and disregard for human suffering, it begins to acquire a lot of unintended consequences. These unintended consequences can produce unbearable pressures on the captive masses and will ultimately result in result in social instability.

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You are seriously wrong in thinking "They would have never begun... unless they knew...." First of all, the Metro is a prestige project which immediately puts "profit" on a remote back burner out of sight never to be seriously considered. The "profit" in this type of project in the construction, materials and labor so all that money only exists if the thing is built.

The process of calculating either payback, ROI, or even profit is a pretty straight forward.Usually, they do a NPV (Net Present Value) calculation based on a myriad of assumptions, guesses, wishes and a few facts. As all of these things are also based on an additional myriad of assumptions, guesses, wishes and a few facts. One key component is "ridership" which is a guess, usually a well calculated, detailed SWAG (Scientific Wild Assed Guess) but a guess nonetheless. Not to bore the analytically challenged each guess in this pile of guesses, and a few facts, has a range, low to high. The guy who cranks the algorithm knows what the Boss wants so will skew all the little guesses to ensure the big final guess gives the Boss what he/they want. They want a subway. The subway will be justified with numbers. My favorite BS component is "contribution to the general economic growth of _____." You can fill in the location, Kunming, Yunnan or California.

A subway is built because it is wanted not because it would make money. It is wanted by the power elites so they can pat their own backs. It is wanted by capitalists who will bid low and will trust the power guys to ante up to keep the project going. Lots of money to share in 300,000,000,000 yuan.

Note: This is not a Chinese thing. This has been going on in the U.S. for a long time.

Think of the subway as a money train.

As long as there is something to tear down and build or rebuild, two things are going on. First, GDP goes up and as a tool for rating government officials you just can't beat impressive, never ending, visible projects adding jobs and boosting GDP.

Second, tearing down and building is where the money is. There is a lot of opportunity to make and pass money around. When you figure in what can be skimmed by using substandard materials then making more money to do it again. well, why would anyone want to stop?

Beijing Lu is a goldmine. Seems to me that there was a lot of repaving done before the Metro project started. Then just as the Metro blue walls came down beautification began. Beautification is pretty near complete, lots of trees have been cut down, but now holes, square red puddles where there were trees, and trenches across street and walk ways make walking muddy and hazardous.

Did you notice the tremendous improvement in the blue walls? No longer blue metal sheets attached to stakes, now, a cement footing is topped with aluminum framed blue composite panels. Reusable? Nope. Salvaged for sure but clearly intended for one time use.

I call that GDP enhancing "innovation."

I would not expect Kunming City to be on the hook for repaying the loans. More likely, one or several entities have been set to borrow the money and operate the subway. In Beijing, a line could be operated by a company. So Line 1 might be operated by "KM Metro Line 1 Company", and so on.

But the more interesting way to look at how the loans will be serviced is looking at required riders. The operating company has two sources of revenue, riders or operating revenue and advertising. In Beijing some lines lose money operating but adverts are enough to let them be profitable.

In the aggregate, loans totaling 300 Billion yuan, for 30 years, at say 3.0% interest, would require about 15 Billion yuan in yearly payments on a fully amortized basis. If operating expenses are 100 million yuan per day, it would take more than 140 million riders per week at 2 yuan to break even.

How many people live in Kunming?

Anyway, you can expect to see lots of advertising in the Metro.

The recent flooding here reminded me of similar flooding in Beijing and Los Angeles. It seems the onset of seasonal heavy rains results in underpass flooding. In Los Angeles and Beijing, part of the problem is the accumulation of trash in storm drains. The volume and force of the rain moves the trash until it collects and restricts water flow. In both L.A. and Beijing, in the days following flooding, crews were busy opening drains fishing out trash. In subsequent weeks, flooding seems to diminish.

I agree with tigertiger's analysis of contributing factors. I would also suggest the rapid construction throughout Kunming impedes and diverts natural runoff paths resulting in unplanned volumes of runoff showing up in unplanned locations.

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Good for quality, but pricey, hand tools.

Be aware they will push whatever they are selling. Some of the staff have no idea about the technical side of appliances.

I went there to buy a stove. I repeatedly told them I would be using bottled gas. They sold me a stove. When I went to my local gas guy, I learned there are at least three kinds of gas sold. Luckily, B&Q did not deliver as promised. I went back to the store and discovered they had sold me a stove they needed to be hooked up to the gas main. I got my money back.

The sales lady was almost in tears, 没有问题!I don't know if it a safety or design issue, but I would think B&Q would know and care.

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Last week had an 8:45am flight.

Subway starts at 9am. I have no idea where to catch an airport express bus. Eight taxis refused to go to the airport. After almost an hour standing on Beijing Lu took a black taxi, this dude drives slower than my mother, 120 yuan.

Flight back was delayed so I learned the subway stops running at 6:10pm.

Getting a taxi back was easy, more taxis than customers. Taxi was 87 yuan including 1o yuan toll, airport to Beichen area. Yes, he took a longer route than necessary.

Kunming imagines being a gateway for international travelers. New airport but hard to get to and from it.

World Class Airport, NOT!

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Tonight "Peacock", a performance by Yang Liping (杨丽萍), to begin her world tour, 8pm, 100-1680 yuan at Yunna Haigeng Auditorium.

Saw this lady perform at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium, in California, in 1995. Quite a good and interesting show.

I'm going to try to make it.

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Not so good. Kimchi had a very sour taste. Other food was nothing to brag about. I don't think I would go back.