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violence at train station

mike4g_air (788 posts) • -1

Quebec is a good example of a "National state" within a country.

They only share the Canadian dollar, passport, military, coastguard and political votes.
Dominated by Canada are resources.

faraday (213 posts) • 0

The authorities need to point a finger in this case. Its not enough to name the individual terrorists, there is also a need to identify everyone involved - everyone who conspired, influenced, or assisted are also terrorists. My interpretation is that the state is saying "the perps belong to group X", having narrowed down "group X" to the lowest common denominator. I do not see that the state is saying "Group X did it". Its a matter of interpretation. My Chinese is limited and my exposure to media even more limited, but thats my reading on it so far. I'm siding with the Chinese government on this. This attack has damaged millions of people, and in my opinion the government AND the Chinese public are handling it very very well. An IRA bomb in London in the '70s and '80s always caused retaliations against Irish in general - and this has been avoided in China. Well done China.

Olga Kozerog (22 posts) • 0

I also want to express my admiration and respect for the police and guards, who clashed with the murderers, especially those who fought from the beginning, who had no firearms, and those who died or were injured. And of course, those who shot the attackers. They are heroes.

Long-Dragon (393 posts) • 0

Over 150 human beings were chopped up at our local train station on a Saturday night after a lovely spring day. There were many heroes and victims. All of us are victims too. The Chinese government has responded in very substantial ways to help. Read the Chinese press. Go to the hospitals. Ask the Chinese Red Cross. The sick and awful persons who did this are dead or will be plunished. Discussions over who did what may help a few recover from emotional tramas. My poor opinion is lets all try to do something of substance a 301 memorial.

Olga Kozerog (22 posts) • 0

Well, Long-Dragon, I can not read Chinese press, ask Chnese Red Cross and go to hospitals...All I can do, it is to read this forum and others sites in English. Memorial will have to be determind by city powers, without them nothing can be made and placed. So, we need find out, were is the official channel for correspondence with city on it.

Long-Dragon (393 posts) • 0

Olga Kozerog, Thank you for your support. You can call the numbers we listed some speak English. You are right about the government having to approve anything but it can be influenced. There is a city number any member of the public can call, in Chinese of course, to express themselves. Individuals and companies can step forward to support something.

bilingualexpat (219 posts) • -7
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Are there English websites like GoKunming in Xinjiang? Or does GoK cover that area?

What's really going on with the alleged Uighur minority internment camps? Mostly just infamous hearsay from international news outlets.

I may be wrong, but based on the relative inclusiveness of Muslim communities here in Kunming, I find it rather difficult to swallow that the Chinese government would go as far as brutally "torture" these Uighur Muslim minority civilians, much less in broad daylight this day and age.

Just curious. May all live in peace.

Apologies for digging out an old, traumatic thread. I remember being just 12 minutes away from this horrific train station incident (aka 301).

These days, still, SWAT police (minus their K9) patrolling at Nanping Pedestrian street with heightened security scans at every KRT station could be attributed to this one deadly attack 4.5 years ago.

Cahzriel (26 posts) • -4
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I mean, are the slew of eyewitness reports not convincing enough for you? (supchina.com/[...] / apnews.com/6e151296fb194f85ba69a8babd972e4b / www.rfa.org/[...] / www.albawaba.com/[...]

Is the UN's report of condemnation "infamous hearsay"? (i.redditmedia.com/[...] / www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-45364689 / www.reuters.com/[...] / www.theguardian.com/[...]

And you realize Xi's own party organs have declared Islam a "contagious disease"? (nymag.com/[...] / www.theatlantic.com/[...]

I highly recommend looking at Twitter more if you want to see direct access to journalists, human rights activists, and others' eyewitness accounts in the area. The mountain of evidence overwhelmingly suggests to me that these camps exist. There are videos and pictures of them. There are interviews of those who have been ripped from their families and illegally incarcerated.

Anecdotally, as to the "relative inclusiveness of Muslim communities here in Kunming," my Muslim friends all over Yunnan paint a very different picture of the way they are treated.

Geezer (1953 posts) • +2

@bilingualexpat

Short answer: No.

A longtime site (may need VPN) is farwestchina.com

It is now a travel site and no longer political in anyway.

I was in downtown Kunming during the 301 attack.

In China, there are Muslims and there are Muslims.

The Hui people (Huí Zú, 回族) are ethnic Chinese that are Muslim and are found throughout China.

Uyghurs, (Wéiwú'ěr Zú, 维吾尔族) a Turkic people, are native to Xinjiang and are pretty much disparaged everywhere in China.

It is wise to distinguish between these, two of 56, ethnic groups recognized in China.

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