it is expedient not to accept the oppology if yuu can. every country needs its bogeyman
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Japan appologises
I think it's mostly those who dominate countries who need bogeymen, the rest of us need to see what a bogeyman really is.
i think it is thosw what dominate that is not accepting the aoppology
Where there is no apology - there is nothing to accept.
TOSHIBA ACCOUNTING FRAUD
Now, this fraud is similar to the legal and accounting fraud that was discovered at Olympus (another major Japanese company) in 2011.
Recently, Toshiba - one of Japan's largest conglomerates, also fell prey to massive and pervasive accounting fraud - similar to the USA's continuous, relentless, and vicious drive for profit profit profit.
Since around 2008, the company created an atmosphere of reporting profits, even if that meant "cooking" the books.
The group's chief executive recently stated, ""It's not my understanding that I gave orders for improper accounting, but the reality is that such an observation has been made."
The external legal and financial audit team discovered, "Tanaka and Sasaki pressured business divisions to meet difficult targets and knew they were overstating profits and delaying the reporting of losses, amid a culture of not going against the wishes of superiors, the report said."
So, you see how Japanese leaders apologize. It was the same with President Clinton, during his white house sex scandal investigation. If only Richard Nixon were as slippery - he'd never have been impeached.
And, if Olympus and Toshiba were caught up in MAJOR accounting scandals, we should expect all if not most major Japanese corporations were doing the same...
Now, Olympus began it's culture of pervasive fraud under Arthur Andersen, but it was promulgated under KPMG and then Ernst & Young. It should be noted that BOTH accounting firms noticed the major accounting irregularities in Olympus.
So, when an apology is NOT an apology - it is unacceptable, as there is nothing to accept. Those who wish to delude themselves, will continue to delude themselves at will. Leadership requires we rise above the will of the masses, to lead towards what is right, as these things generally make the world a better place - truth, justice, respect, responsibility, integrity, honesty, morality, ethics, discipline, etc ad infinitum - so many definitions and words for what is right. Doing the right thing isn't easy - it requires patience, perseverance, and discipline - doing the WRONG thing, however is lazy, easy, and generates short term fulfillment at the cost of long-term pain (usually for all of society).
There are leaders and there are followers. By denying truth about one's own behavior - one lies to one's self. If one can't be truthful to one's self - how can one lead others to make the world a better place?
Lead or follow - for the last 70 years - Japan has chosen and continues to choose to be a follower...while pretending to be a leader. False prophets will always become exposed, in time.
@laotou: While I understand you are a loyal, patriotic American who loves the USA, your propensity to invoke US failings is beyond normal. The US has plenty of failings but why do you need to invent more of them?
Clinton, to my recollection, never apologize for his sexual escapades. Nixon was never impeached, he resigned.
Japan has attempted to apologize several times and in several ways but China consistently refuses to acknowledge this. Being the unending victim of Japanese aggression serves China's needs.
Mianzi ranks high in the psyche of both countries and China is playing the never forget game well. Problem is; China is forcing Japan into becoming a military power which ain't smart.
@laotou: Toshia CEO Tanaka and half the board of directors resigned stating, "I deeply apologize to all stakeholders for causing these problems."
I am trying out how this apology by Tanaka fails to meet your standard for an adequate apology. I guess you expect a public act of seppuku.
My impression is that most Chinese would be pleased if all Japanese committed mass seppuku. No doubt China would then claim Japan as part of China's sovereign territory as Sun Yat-sen once lived there.
massive death resulting from mismanagement of the only one leading party in c h i n e, in its first 30-40 years, now, have anyone heard of any apology from that party? not even one word. quite the contrary, mentioning that past may incur the wrath of 'god.' hahahahah
@ laoutou's first post.
The American citizens needed some revenge and justice therefore many Japanese and Germans did get harsh punishment/ death, but,
my point is that in Japan many scientists got protected in denying medical experiments and nuclear technology.
These scientists were more likely not to surrender as japanese were fanatics therefore they needed protection in the form of denial.
In my opinion this protection was accepted as a general rule for the whole war...
Germany, on the other hand, was a total collapse which had no resistance whatsoever therefore no protection needed...Germans didnt want to go to russians, even if they had information.
@ laoutou's first post.
The American citizens needed some revenge and justice therefore many Japanese and Germans did get harsh punishment/ death, but,
my point is that in Japan many scientists got protected in denying medical experiments and nuclear technology.
These scientists were more likely not to surrender as japanese were fanatics therefore they needed protection in the form of denial.
In my opinion this protection was accepted as a general rule for the whole war...
Germany, on the other hand, was a total collapse which had no resistance whatsoever therefore no protection needed...Germans didnt want to go to russians, even if they had information.
@Geezer
Read the Japanese newspaper's verbatim quote, then translate it. Western media tends to bias stories and translations, to suit their entertainment needs.
As for the USA - I don't create the USA's problems - despite my voting record. The US government has been doing an excellent job of global faux pas all by itself. In that vain - the US government has also done tremendous good - but lately, it seems we're REALLY muddying up the water - but like I said - I'm also not responsible for national security, don't have a solid grip on international politics or global strategies, and am naively idealistic about right and wrong. But I and others like me - we see serious domestic problems continuing to evolve at home, with no seeming solution in sight.
As for Japan - my uncle (respected and reasonably well-known university professor) wrote a damning book on Japan's bio and chemical warfare experiments in China - he was getting death threats from Americans for his well-researched expose...with many commenting he should just shut up and let the past be the past...try telling that to a Jew. Despite over 50 years of work on eliminating racism, it's still pervasive and rampant across the USA.
The problem isn't that the USA isn't perfect - it's that it pretends to be perfect. We point fingers at every human rights violator in the world and publish reports (naturally excluding ourselves) - yet we violate human rights across the globe - we're the world's #1 arms dealer.
I love that America is a strong nation, but that comes with responsibility. Shoveling over USD 40 billion a year in drugs across the porous Mexican border - which incidentally has the longest continuous chain link fence in the world - that's irresponsible - but I see impotence in the USA's attitude toward that illicit trade, which continues to sponsor narcoterrorism in Mexico with our obvious support.
Anyway - as you mentioned - Japan has allegedly tried many times to apologize - and that's the point - they haven't really apologized - their apology is NOT really an apology - which is why all of the asian countries they invaded have never accepted their feigned and insincere attempts at apologies - but the west and the western media continues to propagate the fraud...and that scab will never heal as neither side will stop picking at that wound until Japan genuinely comes clean.
I'm guessing, at best, that Japan is trying to wait until all the victims are deceased, to avoid the nuisance claims for remuneration - which they continue to deny. There were no "comfort women" - which is a moronic moniker for sex slaves. Japan was successful in subverting and propagating the original and outrageous "sex slave" phrase into "comfort women", which is considerably less inflammatory.
I love Japan, loved living there, love the people, love the place, love/hate the culture - but right is right and wrong is wrong and the utter bias with which western media portray its war crime past is offensive, but probably makes for great entertainment.