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Forums > Living in Kunming > Is it just me, or?

I agree, that free market economy is not quite the same as capitalism. But for most people they are synonymous. They are certainly bed fellows.

One of my favourite books on the 'evils' of capitalism has to be Upton Sinclair's 'The Jungle'. Based on actual happenings in the Chicago beef industry around 1905. The story horrified the public led to the formation of the FDA, or whatever it was originally called, and an end to the 'Beef Barons'.
Tainted meat products, doctored milk, graft, exploitation of (im)migrant workers, vote rigging, organised crime; it is all in there.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > How to behave with Chinese students

With stuff like jackets, you need to learn to negotiate. Once you are confident with numbers, it is easier. The rules themselves are simple and you will get confident with practice. There are some simple phrases to throw in, and the students can help you practice with role play.

With foods, there is very little room for negotiating price. But the sums are only ever small. If you pay a little more than you should it is usually, as you have noticed, down to your negotiation skills, and not you being cheated.

Feelings of being cheated are the easiest way to burn a hole in your soul and it will taint your China experience quicker than anything else.

Yes people will take advantage, don't take it personally. I am sure some of these guys would sell their own neighbors kids. The sums involved are usually very small by our standards. We can chose to live with it, or become bitter. The latter is the easy choice. I know I was that angry laowai.

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@ Peter, people have been jailed for handling stolen rental bikes, there was a news story on local TV a couple of weeks back, and I think people were jailed in 3 separate cases. I think in two cases it was 15 days, I think the cops are targeting this, as the whole bike thing is a government initiative.

There are also grass roots volunteer groups liberating stolen bikes, and reporting stolen bikes. I think people trying would get reported, unusual for china as that is.
These bikes are probably too highly visible and recognizable to just chuck on the back of a sanlun che, and ride them through a scrap metal dealer's gates.

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I visited Dali, 2-3 years ago, and cycling around the lake I could not believe that they had built hotels/guest houses along the shore side.
One also needs to think about the run off from the construction sites, going into the lake, with local small building firms doing the jobs.
I am glad that they finally jumped on this.

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A few years ago, someone told me that several thousand Chinese business men, on business trips, just disappear every year. I am sure that shipments of goods disappear at an even more alarming rate. I wonder how many truck drivers are hijacked heading south and west, once they leave China. Probably a very big business opportunity for a logistics security service provider, with experience of this kind of work; which FSG seems to have.

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This has moved.
The cut flowers are about 700m east on Duonan Jie. The plants and trees are about 700 m west and follow Duocai Section.

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A reasonable choice of lumber that has improved over time. Fancy hardwoods like walnut, and mahogany are in abundance. There are some plywood and rubber-wood boards available. There are also some kiln dried imported softwoods and merbao available. Some of the lumber is very green, so look for the kiln dried if you need stable timbers.

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Echo everything said by others.
Breakfast great and the serve from 8am. Most other places say 9am and they still are not ready.
Sandwiches are cheap 22-32, and really packed full of filling. We got some sandwiches for a day out, the only mistake I made was ordering two, as this was too much. These are seriously good sangars, and they are wrapped in alu foil.

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In fairness to Metro, they are a wholesalers, and not really a supermarket. Hence the need for a card, which can be got around.

They have improved in the year I have been away. They now carry a more consistent range of imported foodstuffs and they also seem to have sorted out the mported milk supply.

They have a wider range of electrical appliances now, there is a coice of more than one toast. There is also a better range of seasonal non foods, like clothes, shoes, garden furniture and camping gear.