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Forums > Food & Drink > Metro bakery re-opened

Just been to Metro and smelled bread.

The bakery has re-opened. Looks like they have had a re-fit and new bakery installed.

Don't know if there will be any improvement in quality, but at least I can get cheap sliced white for my toast in the mornings.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Electronics computer market?

There is a computer mall next to Yunnan Univesity's gate on YiErYi Da Jie (121 Street).

You will get the cables you mention in Metro, but the VGA/SVGA cables are much cheaper and do the job.

Ref Fake markets. The fake stuff has pretty much been reduced to cheap tat in China. I can't even find good fakes in Shanghai any more. Mostly because of government crackdowns in the big cities, where most of the market for the products was. There is a lot of lookalike bags, shoes, etc. but few genuine fakes. And the quality is really poor. But you can buy the same tat in the small stores as well.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Do Kunming Drivers Know they are Inconsiderate and Dangerous

Jonathan

I sympathise, but it is not just Kunming. In fact Shanghai is much worse for queue hopping.

Part of it is Confucian 'us and them'. If you are not one of 'us' (family or network) you really are not important.

Linked to this is the culture of 'don't get involved'. Is someone is behaving badly say nothing. This means there is a lack of negative feedback.

Therefore, with no visible punishment for bad behaviour, bad behaviour is indirectly rewarded. e.g. If nobody pulls you up for pushing to the front, you get served quicker and your strategy is successful.

Part of it is face. If there are sanctions for poor behaviour, you will never know because of face. If you behave poorly you can lose face. But is someone tells you that will also cause you to lose face. If I cause you to lose face, I also lose face.

If you lose too much face you can become one of 'them. You will never be told that you are now seen as one of 'them'.

You won't know that you have been cut off from some resource, or contacts, because of face.

Living in a big city is anonymous, and so is driving a car. Little risk to face. So do as you want.

Part of it is also the legacy of the cultural revolution. Where being sophisticated singled you out.

And so for those who lack awareness of the impacts to themselves and their own face, they really don't see a reason to give a flying frigg about anyone else.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Do Kunming Drivers Know they are Inconsiderate and Dangerous

I would say it is :
80% what @ debasser said and

20% what @flower 01 said.

I also think that some of the road rules on 'give way/yield' go back to the days of the horse and cart. But these are not appropriate for high concentrations of motorised vehicles.

On the good side here, I have only ever seen on instance of road rage, and that was in Shanghai. But there again, rage is not acceptable in this culture, but is more permissible in the West. Whereas, driving like an ass is much less permissible in the West than it is here.

You don't have to drive like a selfish ass here, but I have found that it does help.

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Tier ones, in the downtown/CBD areas will always be a good bet, but not so good in the suburbs unless serviced by or soon to be serviced by, Metro/subway lines.

Lower tier cities also have potential. Henan, Zhengzhou has boomed. Due to the city being named as an expanding rail hub for the Belt and Road initiative. Also, anywhere not yet serviced by a metro line. There is still room in this latter category in Kunming, but there is a need to be fast as the metro line as planned should be completed by next August.

I would also avoid buying new. Some of the more upmarket villas in SW Kunming are very poorly built, many are apartments and villas are overpriced and people are fighting to buy the more affordable.
Buying second hand may be less of an investment opportunity, unless a new metro line is going through. However, you can see quality or other issues more clearly and find out the reputation of buildings and management, you can buy already decorated (ready to occupy), there will be fewer unknowns.

The story of Li Bai always reminds me of:
The Little Fete
by J.C. Cooper
I take a bottle of wine and I go to drink it among the flowers.
We are always three -
counting my shadow and my friend the shimmering moon.
Happily the moon knows nothing of drinking,
and my shadow is never thirsty.
When I sing, the moon listens to me in silence.
When I dance, my shadow dances too.
After all festivities the guests must depart;
This sadness I do not know.
When I go home,
the moon goes with me and my shadow follows me.

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This has moved.
The cut flowers are about 700m east on Duonan Jie. The plants and trees are about 700 m west and follow Duocai Section.

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A reasonable choice of lumber that has improved over time. Fancy hardwoods like walnut, and mahogany are in abundance. There are some plywood and rubber-wood boards available. There are also some kiln dried imported softwoods and merbao available. Some of the lumber is very green, so look for the kiln dried if you need stable timbers.

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Echo everything said by others.
Breakfast great and the serve from 8am. Most other places say 9am and they still are not ready.
Sandwiches are cheap 22-32, and really packed full of filling. We got some sandwiches for a day out, the only mistake I made was ordering two, as this was too much. These are seriously good sangars, and they are wrapped in alu foil.

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In fairness to Metro, they are a wholesalers, and not really a supermarket. Hence the need for a card, which can be got around.

They have improved in the year I have been away. They now carry a more consistent range of imported foodstuffs and they also seem to have sorted out the mported milk supply.

They have a wider range of electrical appliances now, there is a coice of more than one toast. There is also a better range of seasonal non foods, like clothes, shoes, garden furniture and camping gear.