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Forums > Living in Kunming > Feel the earthquake?

Anyone else feel the earthquake today? I am on the 14th floor, the building was swaying a bit, thought it was me, but I put a coat hanger on a nail and watched it swinging back and forth. News around the world reporting 43 people dead and 20,000 homes damaged.

Anyone here when the Lijiang earthquake happened? How bad was it here? And my girlfriend is worried about going to New Zealand because of earthquakes... at least we don't do *much* tofu construction there...

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Qujing - worth visiting?

Just came back from the train station. Saw about 40 single travelling lao wai males getting on the train to Quijing. They were all eyeing each other up, were all dressed up for partying and most had at least 1 pocket full of condoms. Will be interesting to be in the Quijing maternity ward 9 months from now though for the ones that slip one past the goalie. Chris8080, what have you done?? I booked my ticket for tomorrow, hopefully its less crowded :-p

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Why do People Come to Live In China?

For me - love (met my girlfriend here while visiting last time), learning the language (always wanted to do), experiencing and learning about a place that is SOO different from the west yet just as relevant and to post long boring diatribes on expat internet forums :-p

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Coloradans and guns

I have semi changed my mind in that I can understand better laotou's point about having a gun as a preventative for normal citizens in a country where gun control is fragmented (different states, different controls, yet no cross state border searches) resulting in a proliferation of the weapons. However I never feel safe visiting America as I am aware of the gun proliferation.

But I have lived in a country that went through a near "free for all" attitude to gun control to a "highly controlled" attitude - in the response to mass killings at home and abroad. While my father bitterly complained (he owned many rifles for hunting including semi automatics which I was bought up with and used on rabbits/possums/other pests frequently - my family were/are very much in pro gun circles) at the time about increased gun controls (basically he had to have yearly assessments by police/psychologists etc to continue having a semi automatic weapon), he now sees that his country is much safer by the increased control of weapons, has got rid of his semi automatic rifle and has changed more to pro gun control. His reason for getting rid of his semi automatics was that he didn't want them to ever be stolen and fall into the hands of criminals - not something he really ever thought about before, and the onerous requirements of ownership. He now owns 3 rifles .22, .22 magnum and a .308 which he uses for deer, rabbits, pigs and possums (a pest in New Zealand, sorry Aussies!). He now has to keep his weapons in a locked steel vault, the bolts and ammunition in 2 separate locations. Basically he couldn't use the weapons for defence of his property/life, but doesn't feel he would need to as it is highly unlikely now that intruders would be armed and he lives a lot happier life with that knowledge.

When the laws changed to virtually outlaw private ownership of assault weapons/hand guns etc in my country there was a government amnesty where for (I may be wrong) about 2 years illegal weapons could be handed into any police station. After that time ownership of these weapons without the proper licenses (basically you have to be a member of a gun club to gain access to the weapons and even then are constantly assessed by police etc, to fire a weapon requires a well regulated license) would result in jail time and destruction of the weapons. The laws surrounding these weapons make casual ownership of them so onerous, and the punishments so large that owning them becomes too much of a hassle. Added to this the guns are virtually impossible to buy and the societal cues telling you that gun ownership makes you a "crazy", uptake of weapon ownership by young people has dropped dramatically. Go to any rifle club in my country and the owners are generally middle aged men.

The result of the law change stemming from a massacre in 1990 was staggering from a national psyche perspective, particularly those that were pro gun. In a few short years owning a gun designed for offence/defence turned from something "cool and sometimes necessary" to being very very uncool and if you still had one illegally you were looked at as a paranoid psychopath. People felt a LOT safer. Gun violence dropped dramatically. However we do, on occasion, still have gun violence, usually when a weapon has not been secured properly and/or falls into criminal/unstable persons hands or accidental hunting deaths. And there are still quite a few floating around illegally, but that number diminishes every year.

You see, pro gun people, I have lived through an era of tightening gun controls in a democratic free thinking country. The result is NOT doom and gloom, it is quite the opposite. The country prospers as a result through less gun violence and (probably more importantly) a shift in the psyche of people who own guns from a militarized pro gun warmongering type attitudes (I include a few of my relatives in this) to a much more even, clear headed, thinking, peaceful people. Thats why I can see that defending gun ownership based on antiquated notions of defence or irrelevant dissonant arguments shows you are stuck in the same paradigm many in my own country were previously, which makes me sad. So Texas Boy, have I changed my mind? NO!

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Green Lake Scooter Park

There is one behind the China Mobile shop/building on Renmin Zhong Lu. Guarded and inside out of the weather. I think the lady charges 5 kuai for you to charge ya bike there. From there its about a 5 minute walk across Renmin Zhong Lu to Green Lake. Its listed as "A Go Go Comic and Animation" on google maps.

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But to the story - I had no idea that different provinces could implement laws differently! There should be no way for Yunnan to be more lenient than other provinces, that is a severe failure of the Chinese justice system (or the Chinese guanxi based punishment system, whichever you prefer!).

I have taken drugs before, LSD when I was younger. My friends did also. That was over 15 years ago now and all of us are now fully capable and contributing members of society today. Not one of us had our relationships break down or adverse affects of our drug taking, which occurred 1-3 times for all of us before we all made a pact not to ever do it again after a bad experience.

So we should all be executed HFCAMPO? Or is there a statute of limitations for your new law? Or do you decide how it is implemented? What if you found out your son/daughter was peer pressured into taking a drug. Instant execution? You are OK with that?

Your broad sweeping assumptions "Casual drug users do affect others you just don't know about it." should be the downfall of your argument.

Alien, there is a clear definition of a troll, look it up. Because others use it here when they should not, is not my problem.

HFCAMPO posted that all drug users should be put to death and he has just said that the statement is not sarcastic. If you do not believe that fits into a category of being "deliberately inflammatory to provoke reaction", I aren't sure what is. He has stated a zero tolerance, capital punishment extremist viewpoint. He then insulted me for telling a simple anecdote, in another attempt to provoke a reaction.

This would be fine if he framed his statements as a matter of opinion. But he has done it with a tone which brooks no argument so that it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. You can tell this because he simply insults anyone who disagrees with him, even in the slightest. He then stated that he is an expert on the matter as he willingly joined an army and worked in the area. And this army was controlled by a government which exhorts the exact opposite of the values he purports to uphold. Either he holds two different viewpoints simultaneously or holds one and deliberately posts the other to provoke a response. I am fairly certain it is the latter.

Is it your genuine opinion HFCAMPO that all drug users should be put to death? My anecdote still holds, just replace "smoking a joint" with "popping a tab of acid". Do you believe all young people who are peer pressured into taking LSD, for instance, should be put to death?

A troll HFCAMPO is someone who posts something on a thread in order to deliberately cause a reaction. Clearly your first 2 posts were exactly that, you somewhat clarified your position in the third post, but not at all clearly, it appears you were being sarcastic?

You have started an inflammatory discussion, appeared to have changed your mind, insulted me for simply adding an anecdote after reading your first posts...

And you still have the temerity to call others trolls?

It appears you get a buzz out of being a troll yourself then pretending you are not. The only one who is laughing is yourself, in your own head, the rest of us are shaking our head in wonderment. I guess the joke is on me for being your troll bait.

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So fast, so convenient. One star off for opening before the train station stop is connected!

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Wow, just wow. Possibly the best Chinese food I have had in Kunming. And in one of the nicest, traditional courtyard style restaurant I have been in. A woman dressed in traditional qi pao playing a gu zheng just adds to it.

We had okra, mushroom soup, dried beef and chou dofu. All top notch with the bill coming in at just over 250 kuai. But we could have fed 3 people for that so not too bad at about 80-90 kuai each. Not the cheapest but for the quality, it's damn good.

If you have people visiting and want to take them to a traditional Chinese style restaurant with Yunnan style food, or want a romantic night out with a gal, you can't go wrong here. Close to Green Lake (down a little alley) for a romantic walk... Just perfect.

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Pretty good place for getting all your documents translated and/or notarised. Note that there are a number of notaries in the building which you can find by going up the stairs (the elevators are impossible). But you have to find the stairs to do so... go in the door, head over to the right, go up the big wide stairs which head up a floor, turn right then right again into the elevator area and right again into the stairwells. Whew!

One point off for the elevators never being available and having to hike 7-9 flights of stairs (not good if you have to go 3-4 times a day like I often did!)

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This does not stop at the Jinanya hotel at Da Shang Hui as the flyers state (and is on the images tab here). They need to have another stop in the same area or else they are missing out on covering a big chunk of the city.

You can take another bus, the 919C, I believe, if you are nearby Da Shang Hui, which leaves from the bus station on HeHong Lu, nearby the Qianxing road intersection. This bus goes every hour and is white, found at the western end of the station. It is operated by a different company and takes about 1 hour 10 minutes to get to the airport due to a large number of stops especially near the airport.

Great bus though if you can catch it!

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Friendly people, even got to the talk to the vice consulate, who told me she had done a stint in Malaysia's Siberian Consulate!

English is spoken by some of the Chinese girls working at the desk who are pleasant to deal with. I assume they do Visa's as well but I wasn't here for a visa, this time!