Hopefully nothing will happen to the guys that attacked him after, its not like they did him any serious damage, just a few cuts and bruises. I know it sounds harsh, but if someone attacked and sexually assaulted a woman in front of me, I would probably try and cause physical harm to him as well. But probably with a swift kick right in his balls. Hopefully the memory would quell any future attempted rape incidents.
@Dazzer
On this site, where a high level of English is used, the site is read, frequented and aimed at a lao wai audience. As such, I am "feeding the image" mainly to fellow lao wai. As such, it has the potential to illustrate to other lao wai, who view this site as a reference before coming to China, that this behaviour is definitely not OK. It has already been in the news in China and done the rounds on QQ. I did not post this to my Chinese friends QQ pages or promote it on any Chinese website.
You are right using your phrase. The guy obviously sh@ where we/he ate. I am trying to stop other lao wai doing the same by reinforcing to all lao wai that this behaviour is not acceptable. I hope this is clear.
Well, OK rick, but it seems you are in denial of a few things. Firstly, many Chinese have prejudice against us white foreigners. They call us "lao wai" as a group and put us all into one box. Whether you like it or not, it exists. A big reason why this exists is prior exploitation of Chinese by westerners. I am not taking responsibility for this guy or this prejudice, but I do want it to change.
Secondly, many white foreigners (I'm looking at Gaoxing here!) believe that coming to China to chase tail is absolutely fine. A small minority also believe that forcing yourself on a Chinese woman is also OK. In my mind, it is not OK for foreigners to come and try and exploit Chinese people in any way. And I would like to advertise to other foreigners who think the behaviour is OK, that it clearly is not. Well, I hope if any read this they will learn that the behaviour is highly unacceptable here, just as it is in the west.
This incredibly individualistic notion that "You are in no way responsible for the actions or prejudices of others" that you purport to is complete BS. We all influence our own culture by our actions and interactions with each other. We therefore bear a portion of responsibility of how our cultural identity and in turn how we are viewed by other cultures. As an example, I tell my friends when they visit to take their shoes off when entering Asian homes and teach them to say "nin hao" to older people in China. This has a generally positive effect. Or alternately I could start a hate group against Asians in my country and spend all my income distributing racist hate leaflets. In both ways I influence my cultural fellows actions and the perception of them in the eyes of Asian people. To deny there is a cultural gap between China and western cultures is silly. Also to deny cultures form opinions of others according to their own values is silly. It happens, so we must think carefully about our inter-cultural interactions.
I am against rape in all forms. But when it is perpetrated against a Chinese person by a white foreigner it has the additional effect of reinforcing prejudices often taught to Chinese people by their elders. I want to make it clear that other white foreigners know this is NOT OK. Standing up against bad behaviour is a responsibility for all of us. Remember that not standing up against wrongs of the world is tacit agreement. Standing up against wrongs informs others that said action is not OK. If we simply let this slip under the radar without saying "This guy does not represent all of us!" we help to reinforce the prejudice through what appears to be tacit agreement in the eyes of the prejudiced.
Chingis, please. A woman is thrust into a bush on the road struggling while screaming "I don't know him!" and a drunk buy is between her legs. She sobs hysterically when released. I don't know where you come from, if you think this isn't attempted rape, I don't know what sort of evidence you require to make a judgement. No means No where I come from weather you are drunk or not. The guy is clearly doing more than restraining the woman and his size shows how much stronger he is than her.
Check out this pretty terrible video footage (viewer discretion advised) of a drunk and stupid laowai who tried to rape a girl in the middle of the road in Beijing. Her screaming "I don't know him!" before he is approached by other Chinese. Thank god for her the people didn't do their normal ignoring trick of anything that's not their problem...
Later on in the clip someone that probably knows the girl attacks him when he is coma'd on the ground. Just desserts I say...
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Already people in China are scared of us enough (my girlfriends family is still worried a little I will try and sell her...) without this sort of behaviour. Hope he is locked up and the key thrown away.
In addition to 123go's description of ATM fees in China, I would like to add they are a total rort by the banks. Its ridiculous for example that you have to pay a fee for being in a different city! Do the banks have entirely different systems for each city? No, they are nationally integrated. Do the banks have to deal with some type of exchange between cities? No, the money coming out of the machine is RMB in both cases and their systems are nationally integrated.
Mind you the same can be said for many things here I guess, for example the ridiculous extra fees charged by China Mobile when you use a SIM from a different area. Same thing - their system is nationally integrated!
In both cases does it cost extra to send a few pulses of electricity to headquarters (probably in Beijing) from Kunming as opposed to Guangzhou? No. So why does it cost me extra? Because banks and telecoms companies here are ripping off the public. These companies are making ridiculous profits for example ICBC made a 61.4 billion RMB profit on an operating income of 120 billion in the first 3 months of this year!! Thats a 50% profit margin!! Amazing! As the big banks in China are mostly state owned, there is no real competition and therefore this will probably remain the status quo.
Wow, that was almost a BillDan rant! Re reading it almost bought a tear to my eye...
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So fast, so convenient. One star off for opening before the train station stop is connected!
Wow, just wow. Possibly the best Chinese food I have had in Kunming. And in one of the nicest, traditional courtyard style restaurant I have been in. A woman dressed in traditional qi pao playing a gu zheng just adds to it.
We had okra, mushroom soup, dried beef and chou dofu. All top notch with the bill coming in at just over 250 kuai. But we could have fed 3 people for that so not too bad at about 80-90 kuai each. Not the cheapest but for the quality, it's damn good.
If you have people visiting and want to take them to a traditional Chinese style restaurant with Yunnan style food, or want a romantic night out with a gal, you can't go wrong here. Close to Green Lake (down a little alley) for a romantic walk... Just perfect.
Pretty good place for getting all your documents translated and/or notarised. Note that there are a number of notaries in the building which you can find by going up the stairs (the elevators are impossible). But you have to find the stairs to do so... go in the door, head over to the right, go up the big wide stairs which head up a floor, turn right then right again into the elevator area and right again into the stairwells. Whew!
One point off for the elevators never being available and having to hike 7-9 flights of stairs (not good if you have to go 3-4 times a day like I often did!)
This does not stop at the Jinanya hotel at Da Shang Hui as the flyers state (and is on the images tab here). They need to have another stop in the same area or else they are missing out on covering a big chunk of the city.
You can take another bus, the 919C, I believe, if you are nearby Da Shang Hui, which leaves from the bus station on HeHong Lu, nearby the Qianxing road intersection. This bus goes every hour and is white, found at the western end of the station. It is operated by a different company and takes about 1 hour 10 minutes to get to the airport due to a large number of stops especially near the airport.
Great bus though if you can catch it!
Friendly people, even got to the talk to the vice consulate, who told me she had done a stint in Malaysia's Siberian Consulate!
English is spoken by some of the Chinese girls working at the desk who are pleasant to deal with. I assume they do Visa's as well but I wasn't here for a visa, this time!
'No-car day' underlines Kunming's car conundrum
发布者Call me an optimist but I think once the Subway is up and running there is going to be a substantial drop in car usage and ownership. Its fairly obvious that Kunming has had some major developments of new living/working areas on its outskirts over the past 10 years with nothing built to connect them together (except for the overcrowded bus systems). The result is people somewhat needing to own a car to enable the to get around efficiently. The subway (once full implementation happens) should go a long way to solving the problem provided the integrate effectively with the bus system... lets just hope its that simple (I did say I am an optimist!).
Around Town: Biking the trails of Changchong Mountain
发布者Hi Omgiri, I aren't in Kunming at the moment, returning in September. Will be keen for a ride up there with you if you are still around! Just have to figure out how to get my bike there from New Zealand...
I knew I wasn't dreaming! www.gokunming.com/[...]
A half decent mtb park would be a pretty cheap way and a good start to creating a world class training facility for MTB'ers. There are so many bikers around KM as well that I imagine the manpower for maintaining the trails wouldn't be hard to find.
Around Town: Biking the trails of Changchong Mountain
发布者Hey, where is this trail, it looks like fun! How do you get there? I have biked a lot around Changchong Shan and not seen this one...
Just a random idea... I remember reading a while ago the Kunming government talking about investing some ridiculous sum of money into making Kunming a high altitude international sports location. Was I just dreaming that??
If I aren't dreaming, it would seem like a good option for them would be to section off a piece of Changchong shan and earmark it for a MTB park. I am sure local clubs could provide the manpower and experience to develop the trails, it would just need government sponsorship of the land and tools, which could be dual use with forestry (which tends to be the norm where I am from and works pretty well - the trails get ripped up once every 20 years when the forest is harvested, a good opportunity to make improvements, while the trails provide forestry workers with foot access through the forest). As there are no shortage of both foreign and local riders, it would seem a feasible idea. If it was done to a high enough standard, it could also be advertised as a cheap high altitude training location internationally. Who's with me???
Getting away: Changchong Mountain
发布者Bugger, might have lost that big comment I wrote as I think I got logged out.
I tried the route but was turned around by fake policemen who stopped me from attempting the road I wanted I think due to a quarry doing some explosives work (I heard the booming!).
This map shows the route I took kind of (the blue markers) to the road, then a new route I just mapped out as well. Will be trying this one tomorrow probably... maps.google.com/[...]
Will let you know how it goes. My route from the other day somehow became corrupted on my phone so I can't upload it. I ended up cycling out to a town called Daoshao Cun and then cycled back.
Getting away: Changchong Mountain
发布者Might head out there tomorrow if anyone else is keen? 8am start, will bike up past the new visitor centre then keep heading north along the tracks. Have checked it out on google earth and it looks quite rideable. Have mapped it out (not in detail!) here: maps.google.com/[...]
Anyone see anything wrong with my route (other than a couple of times not actually being on a road... will have to find my way I think!)?