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Forums > Living in Kunming > Cycling in Kunming

I agree with blubbfisk, shiny frames and shitty locks. The best thing to do is make ya bike look like someone can't sell it. Chances are that if you buy a new bike, it will look re-sellable for the first few months. This is the incentive for bike theft - resale value. I have seen a few times (outside North Railway Station) a women asking people if they need a cheap new bicycle (these are people riding pretty crap bikes stopped at the lights). I have a strong suspicion she is part of a bike theft gang...

I have 5 year old XT 10,000RMB (when new) mountain bike that is scratched up, I have put duct tape on the frame and keep it dirty. For almost a year I have been leaving it in all manner of places all over Kunming locked up with a normal bike lock to trees/lamposts etc. Never had anyone try and steal it and I suspect its for 2 reasons - bike thieves don't know their bike gear and they won't be able to easily resell it.

If you have your own MTB that looks a bit old, bring it. Chances are it won't be nicked because resale is impossible. If you buy a new bike here and want to leave it in random places - say goodbye to it every time you lock it to something with a local lock as you possibly won't get it back.

Cycling in Kunming is also really easy (not much in the way of hills) and I find it to be mostly pleasant. You have traffic all over the place from all directions at all times, but once you are used to this its quite easy and you can utilize it for when you want to go the wrong way against traffic too! I get knocked off my bike a LOT more by cars in the west than I do in Asia because drivers are a lot more aware of motorbikes/cyclists here - no cyclist rage.

Oh yeah - the OP didn't say weather they had a road bike or MTB - MTB is the better option here around the city (inconsistent road conditions), however I know some roadies who have some nice routes out of the city on what they say are really good roads. Either is fine but most people (including locals) buy mountain bikes here.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > High-End laptop PC

I have a high end Dell laptop which I bought in NZ about a year ago. I saw the same laptop in a number of Dell authorised dealers in HK the last time I was there so would second tigers comment about going to HK.

The problem with checking all your internal components in a laptop however is that they are a mission to get into and may void the warranty unless they are opened by an authorised person from the computer manufacturer. If its common practice to swap components in China, I would want it opened too, but doing so may be a mission... so I would second tigers comment and wait until my next trip to HK or Thailand where this is much less likely.

Another thing you could do however is download a program (or use a USB) before you leave the store with it that gives you a readout of the system information. The windows Accessories-System Tools-System Information will usually tell you most things but more indepth tools are available (telling you RAM manufacturer etc), something like www.belarc.com/free_download.html or www.gtopala.com/. This info is pretty damn hard to spoof so you should be able to rely on it.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Psychology behind Chinese street behavior

My girlfriend told me that people don't help because of the legal precedents that have been set in China with people that have previously helped others. The Chinese courts have ruled in the past the the helper is liable for the care of the injured person - even though they had nothing to do with the accident. This came about when someone was hit by a person in a car who then drove off. Someone came to help the victim who then claimed later (probably to avoid the hospital bill) that the person who helped them was the same person that hit them. When this went to court the courts found in favour of the victim, not the helper. My girlfriend tells me there were a few high profile cases of this in a short period of time about 5 or 6 years ago, since then noone is willing to help others for fear of becoming a victim themselves. On top of that, group think kicks in really quickly here, if one person stands back, everyone stands back. I suspect if one person got involved quickly to save someone, everyone would get involved. And another problem is hardly anyone knows basic first aid here, so they probably think "I want to do something, but I really have no idea what and I could hurt the person more if I tried... maybe just record on my phone for the police/ambulance".

I have also observed Chinese people appear to be less sympathetic to people or animals in pain. Generally here there is a lesser respect for pain in others (although in the west sometimes we can be too empathetic) or even deaths of people they don't know (unless its hundreds or thousands of people). This is probably a social consequence of a massive population, but who knows?

I don't think Liumingke1234's comment is valid, I really don't see Chinese people being sadistic.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > GoKunming feedback

- Oh yeah, your Features/News/Travel pages (clicking on the links on the top) are all pretty bad for navigation. Recommend these are changed to have the photo that appears on your homepage for each story for the first 10 ordered by date. Add a tag map to the bottom which will enable the user to click to whichever tag interests them (like at the bottom of the Homepage) but restricted to only that section. Put a search at the top that restricts only to that section too. You could display search results in the same way with the pictures of the first top 10 items (2 columns probably 5 deep). Would make the pages actually interesting to look at rather than 40 lines of text to wade through.

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Nestle - commonly voted as one of the worst companies in the world as it supports child slavery on the Ivory Coast and has, for years, pushed infant milk formula in poor countries as being "better than breast". Be very careful about giving them any kudos for their perceived support of local farmers, most likely they are simply looking for a cheaper way to get their product and don't care if getting their product means breaking labour laws or damaging the environment. They have consistently shown they are a company which does anything at all to improve their bottom line whether completely illegal or morally grey.

Actually, that link I provided stated that the biggest plant processes 1 billion litres a DAY not a YEAR as I stated. Which means they can process 1.38 billion m3 of water a year! That's an astronomical amount... especially considering its only for 5 million consumers... most likely its industry as well.

So the one they are proposing is still entirely possible, it would be under half the size of the worlds biggest.

Check out this:

www.algor.com/news_pub/cust_app/jardine/jardine.asp

The worlds largest water treatment plant processes 1 billion gallons a year. 1 m3 = 264 gallons. Therefore the worlds largest plant processes around 3.8 million m3 a year. But that is for drinking water, maybe these plants will filter to a lesser degree?

Dianchi has a surface area of 298 km2 and a mean depth of (a measly) 4.4m which gives a volume of 1.3 billion m3 (my maths right?). Which means with a couple of plants they could filter the whole of Dianchi in a year! Something tells me that's not quite right...

Besides, this will process the water flowing from a river right? I suppose 19m3 a second is about right for a river flow though, but a pretty big river, like the size of this one:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applegate_River

I haven't seen one that big around Dianchi though... I think someone's screwed the numbers somewhere.

Remember that these plants may not operate 24/7/365 as well which makes it look even more unlikely.

Oh yeah, and is that figure right?

"clean an estimated 600 million cubic meters of water annually"

That works out to be around 1100 cubic metres of water every minute (or 19 cubic metres every second)! And that's if its going 365 days a year 24 hours a day... I would be highly surprised if this was accurate, but it could be, not sure how they clean the water...

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So fast, so convenient. One star off for opening before the train station stop is connected!

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Wow, just wow. Possibly the best Chinese food I have had in Kunming. And in one of the nicest, traditional courtyard style restaurant I have been in. A woman dressed in traditional qi pao playing a gu zheng just adds to it.

We had okra, mushroom soup, dried beef and chou dofu. All top notch with the bill coming in at just over 250 kuai. But we could have fed 3 people for that so not too bad at about 80-90 kuai each. Not the cheapest but for the quality, it's damn good.

If you have people visiting and want to take them to a traditional Chinese style restaurant with Yunnan style food, or want a romantic night out with a gal, you can't go wrong here. Close to Green Lake (down a little alley) for a romantic walk... Just perfect.

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Pretty good place for getting all your documents translated and/or notarised. Note that there are a number of notaries in the building which you can find by going up the stairs (the elevators are impossible). But you have to find the stairs to do so... go in the door, head over to the right, go up the big wide stairs which head up a floor, turn right then right again into the elevator area and right again into the stairwells. Whew!

One point off for the elevators never being available and having to hike 7-9 flights of stairs (not good if you have to go 3-4 times a day like I often did!)

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This does not stop at the Jinanya hotel at Da Shang Hui as the flyers state (and is on the images tab here). They need to have another stop in the same area or else they are missing out on covering a big chunk of the city.

You can take another bus, the 919C, I believe, if you are nearby Da Shang Hui, which leaves from the bus station on HeHong Lu, nearby the Qianxing road intersection. This bus goes every hour and is white, found at the western end of the station. It is operated by a different company and takes about 1 hour 10 minutes to get to the airport due to a large number of stops especially near the airport.

Great bus though if you can catch it!

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Friendly people, even got to the talk to the vice consulate, who told me she had done a stint in Malaysia's Siberian Consulate!

English is spoken by some of the Chinese girls working at the desk who are pleasant to deal with. I assume they do Visa's as well but I wasn't here for a visa, this time!