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Forums > Living in Kunming > Yunnan Thinking and Ways

Culture changes. Driving culture in China does not presently satisfy many drivers. To mention this should not be taken as some attack on Chinese culture in general - I don't think that's what the great majority of drivers, who are of course Chinese, mean to do when they recognize that traffic conditions could and can be better. Things change, it takes time, unfortunately, and there's no point in defending the present in the name of face.
In the meantime, as always, one must live with imperfection. Best not to contribute to it.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Yunnan Thinking and Ways

OK then, vent, people need to vent, it's better than irresponsible explosions (note dangerous explosion at Salvador's one night 2-3 years ago), but please don't make mountains out of molehills or go about insulting people. Why not just vent in the garden shed, or with friends in private somewhere? Gokunming is a public forum, better for using brains than exploding about not-yet-familiar annoyances. Me, I shout at my computer, don't think I'll ever adapt fully to the *&%# little bastard.
As for culture shock, it's pretty common, but a lousy experience while it lasts. My sympathies, I've had to go through it more than once, but it's possible to get through it.

And yeah, the traffic is a mess, I agree - and every single driver on the road has to deal with it. Most succeed. No, you don't have to like it.

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Social cooperation is also hard-wired into the individuals of an innately social species such as ourselves, without which the individuals of our species would not have survived to pass on any genes..Rouseau's 'noble savage' never existed, both he and Hobbes were wrong.

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There are economic issues concerning education in China for very poor communities, which obviously need a bigger share of the economic pie than they are getting. Yet China's 'socialist market economy' is increasing the overall level of economic resources within China.
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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.