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Forums > Living in Kunming > Dry and High Kunming

Ok, ok, be careful you lowlanders who somehow have never known about this. For most who have just arrived, it's highly unlikely to be anything like serious - and to his/her credit, dragon admits this. Those who contemplate moving to Zhongdian (Shangri-la) might pay a bit more attention; anybody who goes higher should either know it already or not go. Usual experience of new arrivals in Kunming from somewhere lower is simply a matter of perhaps being a bit short-winded for a week or so, leading to drinking, perhaps, a bit more water when they get thirsty, no harm done. However, for the water you can substitute the low-alcohol local beer, as many of us beerdrinkers have found out, to our disappointment. As for locals carrying bottles of water around, I don't think it's a function of altitude - massively popular in Hong Kong, for instance, as well as in other areas of lower altitudes (yes, yes, in Hong Kong it's hot, we must all be aware of heatstroke etc.)

I fully expect the great majority to pull through.

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Forums > Food & Drink > Price and salary development

@Kurtosis: Restaurant and food prices - maybe this affects all of us, but who'd really getting squeezed here? Have the farmers, the workers in restaurants and in the market been getting a better deal than they had before? If so, I think it should be okay with most of the (mostly western) foreigners I know, but I have a hunch that maybe the farmers and workers are not the source of the 'problem', nor that they are really the beneficiaries either - seems to me it's been the middle and upper classes that have probably seen increases in their incomes. And it's still okay with me if teachers get a raise too.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Dry and High Kunming

@Dragon: Apologies for my last post, I didn't really need to do that - the info you provide makes sense, it's just that I've never met anyone in Kunming who might really need it, in Kunming - yeah, ok, I'm sure there may be an exception somewhere.

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There are economic issues concerning education in China for very poor communities, which obviously need a bigger share of the economic pie than they are getting. Yet China's 'socialist market economy' is increasing the overall level of economic resources within China.
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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.