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STONE AGE ECONOMICS, by Marshall Sahlins.
I think the trick is to develop participatory democratic means of developing real estate - otherwise everybody has to learn how to build houses, which, although it's probably a more useful skill than some that we employ to make our livings, would probably delineate the possible uses of the division of labor.
Having said this, I wonder if anybody else thinks we might have strayed from the OP's topic?

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@Spartans: interesting quote, not sure where you got it. However, it's important to see that there's Marx's famous irony at work here - he's surely not making this statement in an approving manner.
All alternatives are always a matter of the future, never of the present - the future exists nowhere. And the future is always a project being created.

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@Spartans: Marx never spent much time or detail on presenting a solution - his main object was to point out how capitalism worked, and why & how it would self-destruct. Possible 'solutions' have been looked for all over the place, by marxists, fascists, Keynesian economists, socialists, democrats, marxist-leninists, anarchists, democrats, Christians etc. An ongoing project, which may fail in the long run - and this in a species that is dangerous both to itself and to others, and to the planet, if anybody cares.

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@1. Marx had nothing to do with the control of public opinion and information.
2. No, it doesn't matter that Engels took money from his capitalist father to support Marx.
3. "Socialism/Marxism/Communism" is a mixed bag of categories.
4. "Totalitarianism" is a bad idea wherever you find it.

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@vicar: Where is it that people snatch handbags to get weed? And who told you that it is addictive?
I like to drink, but it's probably healthier to smoke weed than to drink, at least to drink to excess.

@dudeson: weed leads to addiction - I think not, though it may become habitual, but that is not the same thing. As for leading to hard drugs, alcohol - which, in fact, IS a harder drug - might also, but if weed statistically does so more often it's because both weed and certain harder drugs are all thrown into the same category: illegal. Then you have the naive kid told not to do 'drugs', one day he sneaks & does weed, no problems; his next experiment may well be with hard drugs.

That's why, above, I say the way 'drugs' are categorized - miscategorized, actually - is dangerous.
I think we agree, maybe I've just read you wrong.

The point is that using the term 'drugs' for anything that happens to be illegal is dangerous. Weed is closer to beer than it is to heroin.
Somebody define 'drugs', clearly. Should we outlaw tea?

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.