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@laotou: You've got some points, but I don't think what's going on in H K is amusement, nor do I think everybody is simply being manipulated, nor do I th9ink all these people are self-aggrandizing dolts. As for disrespecting the CEO, that doesn't bother me, given his record.
The working class are not currently rising up.
Yes, it would be a good idea for students to get some work experience.

@Geezer: the thing may well be running out of steam for the moment, but it's not going to just go away.
Not everybody in China has a VPN, or even a computer, and news from most international sources is not in Chinese.

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Saw a couple people accept and then immediately auction off excellent raffle prizes they had won but would not or could not make use of, and give the money to a charity - seems to me to be a good and valid option to include in future events.

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Note that the South RR Station is on the underground/subway.

I have just returned from Guangzhou to Kunming South - 9 hours, good comfortable seats, quiet, smooth, bright & shiny; ran at about 200 kms/hr. Price a little over Y400. Even the food on the train was better than the usual quite-bad food on ordinary trains. There's a faster train that is supposed to take about 6 hours, price a little over Y800.

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Really nice photos, makes me want to visit the place, although I object to the practice in China of charging entrance fees to visit whole towns, which turn them into museums.

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I take your point, hedgepig, but cultures change, very often brought on by outside influences, and I'm not sure that taking on Christianity is necessarily more negative than taking on nationalism or various other doctrines - I'm not pushing anything in particular, except that the circumstances are always somewhat particular and have to be judged that way. For better or for worse, there is no hermetic sealing against the outside - the general question is, who's in charge here?

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.