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Forums > Living in Kunming > Should you study Chinese?

@Yankee, I'm going to be kind and assume that you are putting us on! If you're serious, how about explaining what you mean by reasonable?
@HFCampo: Actually, I don't think learning to speak Chinese is EXTREMELY difficult, though of course it's more difficult for those with totally unrelated mother tongues. I'm not saying it's easy either - the tones seem to be more difficult for some people than others, for one thing - but certainly the grammatical hoops that one has to jump through for Indo-European languages, Semitic languages and many others are much more difficult to negotiate than those for Chinese grammar. I also think it's easier to learn to speak Chinese if one also learns to read, at least a little - although the written language is indeed perhaps the most difficult - still, some knowledge of it is helpful, and I mean for speaking, not just for reading.

Anyway, the choice should not be that of either setting out for complete Mastery or Nothing - I know 2-3 foreigners in Kunming who seem to have looked at the language in this manner years ago and chosen Nothing, and they are still pretty much in the same bubble of virtual isolation from their surroundings as they were 10 years ago - can't say 4 syllables in a row - though they've long ago lost most of their awareness of the great vastness of life outside the bubble from their consciousness and assumed that their short-hand generalizations of life outside are more or less accurate.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Oil Pipelines

Capitalism means private ownership of the means of production, but what do you call it when it becomes private ownership of the means of existence?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Oil Pipelines

In the future we are all going to be paying more for water, everywhere. If the species lasts awhile and keeps increasing in numbers, we'll be paying for air too, but that will take a little longer. We've already been paying for land for centuries, and already the sea seems to be in the process of being carved up (eg, the South China Sea).

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Forums > Food & Drink > Brooklyn Pizza

Prices are a bit high, but they're in newchina yupland and seem to be getting quite a dinner crowd.
Beer prices are more or less okay - large Kirin 18 rmb - more beer taps for more draft beers on the way, presently just an expensive German draft.
Anyway, good folks.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Mindcops and communication

@mPRin, yes, I've noticed that, I just automatically don't read them.
I think my computer is slightly screwy lately, should get somebody who understands it check it out - but I notice an awful lot of SORRY YOU CAN'T READ THIS notices when I try to download these days - how about you folks?

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I kind of liked the atmosphere around the old Workers' Cultural Palace, and I'm not seduced by the identification of tall buildings with 'progress'. As for the name - "what's in a name"? Perhaps the state might ease off a bit about presenting us all with the identities that they would like us to have.

@ Tiger: as you say, for many societies. But the issue of wealth and power often seems to play a part in differing levels of religious attachment among different classes and subgroups within a 'people' as well, as well as in differing types and degrees of attachment.

Religions from 'abroad' have been accepted all over the place for a long time - e.g., the acceptance of forms of Christianity by Germans, Ethiopians, Mexicans, etc. at different times in history. The idea of climate change is different, unless you want to categorize scientific methodology itself as a religious doctrine, which can lead to an interesting philosophical argument, but I don't think we ought to go into it here.

@ octobersky: OK, but the fact is that religious beliefs change over time anyway, at least partially as a function of changes in material circumstances - e.g., rain gods are just not going to remain as important to people who, in their daily lives, are decreasingly reliant on rainfall. So I don't think it can all be seen as a simple matter of native-religion-appropriate/religion-from-outside bad - it's not simply some matter of 'brainwashing' imposed from the outside, since a real 'brainwash' would require complete control over local minds etc., which is always an impossibility, even with a lot more information control than any bunch of missionaries ever had.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.