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Forums > Living in Kunming > Freedom, western and Chinese parents

I don't think Duty or Love is necessarily a black/white alternative. And I think love and affection (or, anyway, expressions of affection) are different. If love were ONLY an emotion I don't think it would amount to much, at least not for long.

I suggest that, in addition to Chinese/'western' comparisons, one might also look at rural/urban, 'traditional'/'modern', etc. The world hasn't stopped changing, and changes those within it, which change it further etc. What was a mistake in the past may not be one today, and vice versa.

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@Peter: hope it's true, as if that's the problem it shouldn't be too hard to deal with. The public bike-rental process is a good idea and I'm sure it can be made to work better.
Would like to see some statistics as to the number of private cars on the road now, in comparison to the number before the bike scheme, although my guess is that this statistic is simply not available.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.