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OK HFCampo, I get your point, but if your 'telling' and your 'rights' come across as arrogant over-directness you will produce the opposite reaction to what you want and/or will create more serious problems than the ones you are trying to solve - I'm not saying you do this, but I've seen plenty of westerners in China do it - it can come across as PC, the ideas of which aren't so bad but the attitude and manner associated with it are often counterproductive. You are not dealing with naughty children.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Good Place to live in Yunnan

OK, but I haven't found 1) terribly rare, although I think hardworking is more common that efficient.

I think boosting spending is only a good idea if the things to be purchased are really worth the necessary labor to produce them - a lot of crap is produced everywhere, and putting people to work to produce them means not putting people to work at jobs that are actually more important to see done - but the rich must have their toys, and can arrange to have them produced by employing people to do the jobs that don't help the poor, simply because they have the wealth/power to do so. Some people may call this economic justice, but I have a few doubts about whether it produces social justice.
Right - a diversion from the OP, mea culpa.

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Nice article, Ginger, and on a subject that one might not think about until, once one does, it's obvious that it should be explored.
The point about foreigners particularly applies, as you indicate, to people from milk-product-using 'western' countries and, as you indicate, it is one picked up in some southeast Asian countries as well - but foreigners from other areas will be pegged also (e.g., South Asians who use many different 'curry' spices, etc., that are not used so much in China).
And then there is the widespread smell of tobacco, noticeable primarily by those foreigners who don't use it. Baijiu has a particular smell also.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.