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Forums > Living in Kunming > Please sign the petition.

Single acts, petitions, whatever, NEVER change the world all by themselves. The fact that this won't either, by itself, is no reason to say it's worthless. Those who want to do more are free to propose it, organize it, do it. In the meantime, there is no point in encouraging the general passivity of most people most of the time - awareness beats the hell out of not being aware. The only danger with such efforts (as has been mentioned, correctly, I think) is that the self-righteous and condescending will assume their superiority because they're merely signed a petition - or voted for a presidential candidate, or whatever - and then go back to sleep.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Advice of living costs/rental from locals, expats

Yesterday I took route 64 from Shi Da to the (main) train station about 5PM, Y1; took route 2 from train station to Jianshe Rd about 7:30PM, Y1. 101 and 85 from Wenlinjie to & from the west are usually, but not always, Y1 (both I think run from the North Train station), big buses, sometimes small ones in late evening. No bumpy roads.
So I dunno.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.