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I find no direct train from Kunming to Hong Kong. However, Ctrip site now claims the Z212, leaving at around 6PM, will get you to Guangzhou in 16&1/2 hours - hard sleeper 351rmb.

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@ Alpage: The rapid Guangzhou-Shenzhen trains are pretty frequent and no hassle to board if you arrive by train in Guangzhou Station (quick ticket, special entrance to the rapid-train waiting room). Does the Guangzhou-Hong Kong train depart frequently? What's it cost? From which station, main Guangzhou station or Guanzhou East (trains from Kunming arrive at the main station)? And where do you have to go through Immigration and customs?

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@ AlPage: I don't quite get it - does the K1206 go to some station in Shenzhen OTHER than the one at Luohu? I've never been to any other station there. If it does, I'd suggest just taking the K1206 (or another train) to Guangzhou (I did it recently, was 24-25 hours instead of 30) and changing to the rapid train to Shenzhen there, though it might be slightly more expensive (guangzhou-Shenzhen rapid train is about rmb80).

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I don't know the names BuJi station of Laojie station or where they are meant to be, but the station rapid commuter trains from Guangzhou Station arrive at in Shenzhen is where Immigration is, and the HK commuter train (every 8 minutes or something) you take just across the border from Lwohu in HK goes to Hong Hom Station in Kowloon.

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@ redjon: OK, I agree.
@ForeignGuy: (1) I appreciate the problem, but it's possible to know a language and control its use in the classroom. (2) What about living in KM? Don't know your Chinese ability, but I'm not pretending everybody become fluent, which is the kind of irrational and impossible goal that has kept friends of mine from learning any Chinese at all - and that is a stupid mistake. On the other hand, if you can only buy things in the market in Chinese etc. you are shortchanging yourself, as well as those you attempt to communicate with and live among.

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Although I have studied at Keats and find it's the bet place to study Chinese in Kunming that I know of, the article sounds a bit like a plug for Keats.
As for studying Chinese, imagine how idiotic it would be to live in any country for more than about 6 months and not be abler to hold a conversation in that country's language.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.