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Forums > Living in Kunming > Why do miserable foreigners remain in China?

The point of all this about nudity & black dresses is that cultural language, in China as elsewhere, is often less than perfectly understood by foreigners. Which is not meant to be either an approval or disapproval of local cultural 'language' - but it does mean that it is not surprising that a lot of misunderstanding goes on, and that it's worth learning 'languages', which cannot be done overnight. mmkunming made this point when he talked about how to deal with people who seem to want to rip you off - or, for that matter, to invite you to dinner.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Why do miserable foreigners remain in China?

@Daithi: Ah - okay. Might make it more difficult for the wearer to make it clear to the guy that she is not interested if she wore it in Karachi - communication is not only a matter of words but is also carried on by other elements of cultural practice - as I'm sure all women know (hence the black dress).

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.