@laotou: sounds good, but I'd like to know who does oversight & what the overhead is.
Also, maybe you wrote a bit ambiguously & I don't understand, but: 'FOREIGN things like...'???
@Chicha, I'm confused - regardless of whether what you say is correct or not: This is why you stay here?
@Laotou, your last sentence: famous quote from a famous man, wish he were still around to give us his take on things these days.
I'm sure there is racism and persecution of critical journalists, and there are scams, in China. Too much of this? Any is too much. More than elsewhere? More than some places, less than others. Are most people in China involved? I think not. Are there enough random acts of kindness, by anybody, Chinese or otherwise? I think not. Is there a risk in helping somebody? Probably. Is life safe? Never. So don't be stupid but have some guts and do the right thing.
I think both Tonyoad & Chingis have a good point - why not ask those who complain so much why they stay? Shuo777 has a possible answer: some people get a perverse pleasure out of complaining. However, I'm not convinced that none of the complainers can be approached on gokunming. Shuo777 makes a good guess but he may be wrong. So I'm asking: those of you who complain a lot, please tell us why you stay in China. As for the long discussions of the manner in which mmkunming has written his posts, there may be a valid point or 2 lurking somewhere within them, but the posts don't bother me and so I'm not going to get into it - doubtless somebody will pick my language apart as well - feel free - but I seriously wonder whether it will be worth the trouble to other readers.
As far as the constant bitching that I've mentioned before, it continues to annoy me - maybe that's my fault.
@Daithi: I agree with you, & that we all, coming from different directions & understandings, need to contribute to the creation of societies/cultures that do not yet exist. In the meantime we'll have to put up with a bit of cultural misunderstanding - unavoidable. The 'bitching' that I mentioned earlier is only very rarely a good way to go about it.
No results found.
Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.
As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.
Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.
Too bourgeois.
Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.
Ain't no flies on Salvador's.
Volunteers needed to help Lufeng schools
发布者Hope the real estate speculators and black-Audi-drivin mfs kicked in.