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Forums > Food & Drink > Restaurant grading system

Suggest people pay little or no attention to ABC ratings outside of, perhaps, France - anyway, it's interesting to learn, from this forum, that there is, in fact, such a widespread system in Kunming, as I've never bothered to look for ABCs, although I suppose they're buried somewhere in the collections of plaques from organizations I've not heard of that decorate the walls of many establishments.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Where s Dwarf empire

@jopasny: exploitation has nothing to do with cages, it has to do with using people. I seriously doubt whether the folks who run it as a business do it for a simple salary.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > I love Kunming - Except . . .

@yankee: well, there were huge communal farms...& no wall around Kunming - it went down about 1950, along with a lot of others in other cities. Not sure when the wall around Beijing went down, but Tiananmen square had yet to be built.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.